KNIFONIUM synth released

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KVRAF
28836 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Fri May 14, 2021 10:59 am

Danilo Villanova wrote:
Fri May 14, 2021 10:41 am
Sorry, haven’t read the thread. How’s the CPU hit?
Pretty hard. Sound quality doesn't come without a price.
Plugins and a DAW. On an operating system. Which runs on a computer.

KVRian
535 posts since 30 Apr, 2018

Post Fri May 14, 2021 11:38 am

chk071 wrote:
Fri May 14, 2021 10:59 am
Danilo Villanova wrote:
Fri May 14, 2021 10:41 am
Sorry, haven’t read the thread. How’s the CPU hit?
Pretty hard. Sound quality doesn't come without a price.
Ok :( I’ll try the demo to see if it suits my somewhat humble system. Thanks!

KVRist
177 posts since 9 Oct, 2020

Post Fri May 14, 2021 3:41 pm

Danilo Villanova wrote:
Fri May 14, 2021 11:38 am
chk071 wrote:
Fri May 14, 2021 10:59 am
Danilo Villanova wrote:
Fri May 14, 2021 10:41 am
Sorry, haven’t read the thread. How’s the CPU hit?
Pretty hard. Sound quality doesn't come without a price.
Ok :( I’ll try the demo to see if it suits my somewhat humble system. Thanks!
Which DAW are you using? If you’re using FL Studio you can, once you have a patch dialled in, just VST-sample the patch into directwave by right-clicking the channel. Or, and in any othet DAW, bounce to audio. My setup is pretty meager as well but I can get by with it without much issue, since I enjoy the sound.

KVRian
535 posts since 30 Apr, 2018

Post Fri May 14, 2021 5:40 pm

E_Anderson wrote:
Fri May 14, 2021 3:41 pm
Danilo Villanova wrote:
Fri May 14, 2021 11:38 am
chk071 wrote:
Fri May 14, 2021 10:59 am
Danilo Villanova wrote:
Fri May 14, 2021 10:41 am
Sorry, haven’t read the thread. How’s the CPU hit?
Pretty hard. Sound quality doesn't come without a price.
Ok :( I’ll try the demo to see if it suits my somewhat humble system. Thanks!
Which DAW are you using? If you’re using FL Studio you can, once you have a patch dialled in, just VST-sample the patch into directwave by right-clicking the channel. Or, and in any othet DAW, bounce to audio. My setup is pretty meager as well but I can get by with it without much issue, since I enjoy the sound.
I'm is Studio One, which is doing a really bad job of handling CPU hit from VST's... it may be a config issue, I'll try to solve that. Otherwise I'll have to stick to low CPU synths for the time being.

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11984 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Sat May 15, 2021 3:54 pm

Yeah, I find Studio One is less than stellar when it comes to efficiency. Even when the CPU load isn't all that high, say around 60-70%, it can start giving pops and crackles. Orion never did that, it just kept working until it couldn't any more, and it started to stutter.
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KVRer
23 posts since 13 Oct, 2018

Post Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:50 pm

49$ right now... is it worth getting if you already own Diva, Vaccum Pro and other similar VSTs?

KVRAF
4138 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:16 pm

Imo no.

I wrote them about the bug that is present since launch about two months ago, and they closed the ticket and am still not sure they understand it.
Maybe for 15$, but 49$ for unmaintained software with terrible resale value is a bit much.
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KVRAF
6528 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK

Post Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:25 pm

Seelachsfilet wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:50 pm
49$ right now... is it worth getting if you already own Diva, Vaccum Pro and other similar VSTs?
I personally found that Vacuum Pro covers those sounds for me, Knifonium certainly has a different 'texture' so it adds a flavour you may appreciate, really need to demo it. If it turned up at no-brainer prices in a sale then I'd probably grab a copy but not something unique enough for me to warrant a regular purchase.
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KVRAF
5136 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Post Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:30 pm

Ploki wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:16 pm
Imo no.

I wrote them about the bug that is present since launch about two months ago, and they closed the ticket and am still not sure they understand it.
Maybe for 15$, but 49$ for unmaintained software with terrible resale value is a bit much.
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KVRAF
4138 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:05 am

And you’re on a mission of quoting me across PA threads? Or am i missing something
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KVRian
836 posts since 20 Apr, 2005

Post Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:26 am

Ploki wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:05 am
And you’re on a mission of quoting me across PA threads? Or am i missing something
You're in a lot of them considering you don't like them so much. :hihi:

What was the bug?

I haven't used it in anger. It's lined up for another project though. Haven't seen anything obvious though.

For me, I love the sound of this synth!
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KVRAF
1624 posts since 28 Mar, 2007

Post Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:29 am

Seelachsfilet wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:50 pm
49$ right now... is it worth getting if you already own Diva, Vaccum Pro and other similar VSTs?
I downloaded Knifonium a week ago and thought it was nothing special, certainly nowhere in the same league as Diva.

That was until this morning when going through the pre-sets again I found "Brass bass". This thing now sounded pretty analogue and fat but mono only. Then I decided to do something strange and read the manual, and found an editor at the top which allowed 8 voices and the ability to turn off the fx.

Now this thing starts to sound pretty interesting. So my conclusion is that the pre-sets do not do it justice, many of them are just plain silly with all sorts of nonsense going on. But start tweaking your own and it shows real promise.

Where Diva wins out is in the GUI section which is far better in my opinion, but I guess some people will love it. Download the demo and give it a try.

KVRAF
4138 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:33 am

_leras wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:26 am
Ploki wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:05 am
And you’re on a mission of quoting me across PA threads? Or am i missing something
You're in a lot of them considering you don't like them so much. :hihi:

What was the bug?

I haven't used it in anger. It's lined up for another project though. Haven't seen anything obvious though.

For me, I love the sound of this synth!
Parameter (gui interaction and automation) response changes with sampling rate. Not sure about MIDI
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KVRian
836 posts since 20 Apr, 2005

Post Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:45 am

dellboy wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:29 am

Where Diva wins out is in the GUI section which is far better in my opinion, but I guess some people will love it. Download the demo and give it a try.
If you compare the diva GUI and you're only using one synth flavour I don't think there's a lot in it. Knifonium had everything in view which is good.

The sound is also totally different. Really has its own thing and a great analogue sound. Won't work for everything.

The ms20 in diva possibly comes closest to this with the darkness of tone from diva.

Vacuum Pro has a similar aesthetic perhaps, but has less analogue flavour. Vacuum Pro is also basically free... As part of the air music bundle.

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KVRian
836 posts since 20 Apr, 2005

Post Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:49 am

Ploki wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:33 am
Parameter (gui interaction and automation) response changes with sampling rate. Not sure about MIDI
I would literally never find that bug. How often do you change sampling rate in a project?

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