Wow.. Xils-PolyM Has so much Mojo . I'm Loving this VST-Synth !

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Muziksculp
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1590 posts since 23 Sep, 2005

Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:19 am

Hi,

I just wanted to praise the Poly-Moog emulation that the Xils PolyM offers .

Wow ! This is an Impressive VST synth, it surely has lots of Mojo, warm analog character, fat and rich sounding filters, Loving this synth :tu:

Any Xils-PolyM fans here ?

Thanks,
Muziksculp

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wagtunes
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19715 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:06 am

To my ears, it is identical to the real thing. They did a great job with it.

epiphaneia
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747 posts since 29 May, 2011 from Germany

Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:27 pm

Yes :phones:

As much as I wanted to love them, I never warmed with the other Xils products - probably more due to the -imho- usability idiosyncracies (I detest the preset manager, among other issues)... but PolyM is worth all the troubles.

It sounds so real and warm and, well, analogue, without first applying any of the usual "detune this, EQ that, introduce instability here, add a super-analogueizer-mojo channel strip plugin" routine. It´s one of the plugins I always get back to when I lack inspiration: Poly M, Reverb, Delay = instant ambient music.

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Muziksculp
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1590 posts since 23 Sep, 2005

Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:34 pm

epiphaneia wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:27 pm
Yes :phones:

As much as I wanted to love them, I never warmed with the other Xils products - probably more due to the -imho- usability idiosyncracies (I detest the preset manager, among other issues)... but PolyM is worth all the troubles.

It sounds so real and warm and, well, analogue, without first applying any of the usual "detune this, EQ that, introduce instability here, add a super-analogueizer-mojo channel strip plugin" routine. It´s one of the plugins I always get back to when I lack inspiration: Poly M, Reverb, Delay = instant ambient music.
Thanks for the feedback.

Exactly the same feeling here. :)

I also was not that impressed with some of the other Synths they have, but Poly-M is something else. I wish their other synths were half as good as Poly-M.

Actually Poly-M is quite versatile, great for big brassy leads, basses, pads, I haven't tried making pluck sounds with it, but it is the sonic character that it has, that is so alive, warm, and very rich sounding compared to many other synths.

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wagtunes
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19715 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:09 pm

Muziksculp wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:34 pm
epiphaneia wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:27 pm
Yes :phones:

As much as I wanted to love them, I never warmed with the other Xils products - probably more due to the -imho- usability idiosyncracies (I detest the preset manager, among other issues)... but PolyM is worth all the troubles.

It sounds so real and warm and, well, analogue, without first applying any of the usual "detune this, EQ that, introduce instability here, add a super-analogueizer-mojo channel strip plugin" routine. It´s one of the plugins I always get back to when I lack inspiration: Poly M, Reverb, Delay = instant ambient music.
Thanks for the feedback.

Exactly the same feeling here. :)

I also was not that impressed with some of the other Synths they have, but Poly-M is something else. I wish their other synths were half as good as Poly-M.

Actually Poly-M is quite versatile, great for big brassy leads, basses, pads, I haven't tried making pluck sounds with it, but it is the sonic character that it has, that is so alive, warm, and very rich sounding compared to many other synths.
The 150 patch library that I made for it, I made only 4 plucked sounds. It really isn't ideal for making plucked sounds as the envelopes simply aren't snappy enough. At least that's my opinion. I'm sure many will disagree because, well, you know, KVR.

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c_voltage
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1709 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union

Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:12 pm

I'm did not bought it tho (for me been occurs oversaturation by synths it seems), but i remember when tried demo during release, noted interesting unusual "alive velvet" nature too, like described above. Honestly, I had to make an effort not to go into my wallet then.
I think, for someone who does not yet have an ocean of synths, this is a very good\smart choice.

TIMT
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750 posts since 8 Mar, 2009

Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:03 pm

Xils make the best analog modelled synths and i don't get why nobody talks about their effects like RAMSES and Masque Delay.the filter saturation in those is a cut above some other overly hyped plugins here.i thought the PolyKB sounded like a bit of a joke in relation to what it models,but the Syn-X and XILS 4 get a lot of use here.i am mostly using XILS 4 as an effects processor though
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robotmonkey
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Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:08 pm

TIMT wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:03 pm
Xils make the best analog modelled synths and i don't get why nobody talks about their effects like RAMSES and Masque Delay.the filter saturation in those is a cut above some other overly hyped plugins here.i thought the PolyKB sounded like a bit of a joke in relation to what it models,but the Syn-X and XILS 4 get a lot of use here.i am mostly using XILS 4 as an effects processor though
I don't know, PolyKB II.5 is probably the most analog sounding VST synth imho I have ever used and my absolute favorite along Waldorf PPG v3.
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vitocorleone123
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685 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW

Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:20 pm

Synx is great, too. (I have the mini)
I loathe their preset browser.

christian f.
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251 posts since 3 Feb, 2017

Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:34 pm

robotmonkey wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:08 pm

I don't know, PolyKB II.5 is probably the most analog sounding VST synth imho I have ever used and my absolute favorite along Waldorf PPG v3.
I agree , Poly KB is very analog sounding ! I love the FX and other synths like Poly M too.
I just think their drum machine is terrible.

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layzer
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6915 posts since 11 Jun, 2006

Post Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:03 am

they gave away a free analog synth a while back.. the xils 3 i think....
i remember i wasnt all that impressed with the sound vs the CPU usage.
polym is a totally different synth, i know but that first impression put me
off enough to overlook their other offerings. :shrug:
glad it works for you :tu:
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c_voltage
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1709 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union

Post Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:14 am

robotmonkey wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:08 pm
I don't know, PolyKB II.5 is probably the most analog sounding VST synth imho
+1 agree
Usually when speech going about most "analog sounding" into plugins, PolyKB in my list.

But In the same time in contrary, i have some (subjective perhaps) complains to Xils3\4 in this aspect. Having probably tried all the Synthi emulations, and after watching various videos on YouTube with original thing, frankly to say I'm not very satisfied with the frequency modulation behavior in Xils version (I mean, when one osc modulate itself or other osc freq thru matrix). In my opinion too softly a bit, not enough aggressive in extreme osc volume levels. Similar like a deficiency in the level of impact in matrix, i dont know.
Though in the same time present some another sides of analog character in it, like "roundness\convex" in sound.
But exactly madness in freq modulation why I like Synthi.
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aMUSEd
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31630 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:20 am

christian f. wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:34 pm
robotmonkey wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:08 pm

I don't know, PolyKB II.5 is probably the most analog sounding VST synth imho I have ever used and my absolute favorite along Waldorf PPG v3.
I agree , Poly KB is very analog sounding ! I love the FX and other synths like Poly M too.
I just think their drum machine is terrible.
Yeah PolyKB sounds beautiful - just wish they would listen to all the people not liking their preset management. They are the only plugins I struggled to reinstall all my presets for after my old Mac died on me because they don't have presets that can just be copied over from one HD location to another (in this case from a Carbon copy backup) - I had to hunt for what I could from emails and several websites and in some cases ask for new copies of the banks to be sent and lost a load of self created patches just because you have to import banks into the database.

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Niowiad
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688 posts since 25 Jan, 2017

Post Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:28 am

I initially bought PolyKB2 (later upgraded to v3) then XILS4, not really interested in the other synths.

On a later sale I bought PolyM almost out of boredom and now it's probably my favorite Xils synth.
Dark, unstable, extremely rich sounding. I even love the VCA envelope and how it reacts to velocity.

Furthermore, I used to underestimate the string machines, but the recently released Xils-505 is also quite phenomenal, as far as I'm concerned.


I'm not a preset user so this might be the reason I don't understand the issues with the new preset browser, but it seems fine and functional to me.

Last but not least, Xavier really is one of the nicest and most considerate developers I've had the chance to deal with.

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zerocrossing
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10265 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area

Post Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:22 am

Muziksculp wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:34 pm
I also was not that impressed with some of the other Synths they have, but Poly-M is something else. I wish their other synths were half as good as Poly-M.
I don’t really get this sentiment. I love PolyM too (I don’t have it yet, but it’s on my list) but I’ve always felt like all their emulations are on par with PolyM, and I’ll include Oxium in there too, though it’s not an emulation. Great plugins, great company.
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