Softube Model 72 - Plugin + Modules for Softube Modular and Amp Room

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KVRAF
3047 posts since 2 Oct, 2004

Post Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:46 am

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KVRAF
9045 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:09 am

I tried it out against The Legend, Monark, and Poly-D (I also have Diva but didn't direct compare) and a few things stuck out:

1. Holy hell the presets are normalized quite loudly on the Model 72. I hate when developers target 0dbfs with presets.

2. The envelopes on the Model 72 were weird/different. There was one particular patch on Model 72 that I just couldn't replicate on the others. On the filter, it had a slow-ish attack, decay around the 600 mark, env depth at max, filter around 10 o'clock, and it was producing a fast resonant pluck on the attack that just wasn't happening elsewhere. Thought it was kind of interesting. Kind of like the envelope depth on the Model 72 wasn't as deep as the others, but also like the envelope timings and response were very different. Want to play around with that some more.

3. The feedback sounds great.

4. Overall, it's got a bit more grit to it than The Legend or even my Poly-D, making it more akin to Monark in being an aggressive sounding Moog.

Don't think I'll be buying but definitely will play around with the demo more.

KVRAF
3468 posts since 20 Feb, 2004

Post Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:41 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:09 am
3. The feedback sounds great.

4. Overall, it's got a bit more grit to it than The Legend or even my Poly-D, making it more akin to Monark in being an aggressive sounding Moog.
I didn't want to get this, and even mocked the very idea of (yet another f**king) Minimoog, but gosh-golly I sure do like its sound. Totally agree about the feedback sounding fantastic and the advanced level of grit. That feedback seems like it can totally transform a patch into something wild and untamed, in a way that the other Mini emu's don't. Must play with this further.
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KVRAF
5021 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:08 pm

JerGoertz wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:41 pm


I didn't want to get this, and even mocked the very idea of (yet another f**king) Minimoog, but gosh-golly I sure do like its sound. Totally agree about the feedback sounding fantastic and the advanced level of grit. That feedback seems like it can totally transform a patch into something wild and untamed, in a way that the other Mini emu's don't. Must play with this further.
but putting this filter on random modules in Modular is fun tho. :hihi:
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KVRer
16 posts since 22 Oct, 2009

Post Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:17 pm

A couple of things right off the back that I'm not digging.
1, GUI is not resizable.
2. Keys are not moving up and down when I press a key on the controller.
3. It's not receiving midi patch change messages to change the patches.
4. Patch selection is not much to desire at all. Need some new programmers and a better selection.
5. When going from patch to patch Volume blast loud and some to soft no consistency.
6. Those keys need to be a little longer because that shorten key look just isn't doing it. Eye Candy is King:)
Other that that I like it and I'm in and going to buy and hopefully the few little quirks can be taken care of in an update sooner than later.

KVRAF
1801 posts since 28 Sep, 2012

Post Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:59 pm

Mr LouisDCarroll Jr. wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:17 pm
A couple of things right off the back that I'm not digging.
1, GUI is not resizable.
2. Keys are not moving up and down when I press a key on the controller.
3. It's not receiving midi patch change messages to change the patches.
4. Patch selection is not much to desire at all. Need some new programmers and a better selection.
5. When going from patch to patch Volume blast loud and some to soft no consistency.
6. Those keys need to be a little longer because that shorten key look just isn't doing it. Eye Candy is King:)
Other that that I like it and I'm in and going to buy and hopefully the few little quirks can be taken care of in an update sooner than later.
I wouldn’t buy anything from Softube with the aim of expecting any kind of updates. I own a bit of Softube, and besides maintenance updates for bugs and the preset browser Softube don’t add features to plug ins after release (and they admitted as much to me in an email).

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KVRAF
10271 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:07 pm

I quite like the Patch collection. Way more than I do Legend, but I guess you can't please everyone.
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KVRAF
3047 posts since 2 Oct, 2004

Post Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:42 pm

zvenx wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:07 pm
I quite like the Patch collection. Way more than I do Legend, but I guess you can't please everyone.
rsp
No you can't. I even preferred the presets that came with NI Monark over the collection that comes with the Legend. And Monark is a synth with no effects. Like with 99% of Synapse Audio synths, the Legend patches seem to steer towards the trance side of things and they use reverb quite often.
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KVRAF
10271 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:29 pm

I too preferred thr Monark patches ans agree with you re: Legend patches.
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KVRAF
5021 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:45 am

after sometime i gotta say i appreciate this the most in modular
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KVRAF
3706 posts since 29 Jun, 2011 from USA

Post Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:59 am

This is my favorite Moog soft-synth by a mile. I was a bit disappointed at the lack of innovation, which seems to be the trend now. I guess if people just want straight emulations it works for them.

I agree with some others here, it works so well in a mix and sounds very good to my ears. I have the Behringer Model D to compare with too. Of course all the Moog emulations are quite similar. The Modular aspect is a bonus too as I quite like Softube Modular. Thanks for the promo code!
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KVRist
247 posts since 17 Mar, 2012 from Montreal

Post Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:07 am

Does anyone find that the modules by themselves in modular sound better than the single instruments? I feel this way with system 72 and Heartbeat.

KVRAF
1801 posts since 28 Sep, 2012

Post Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:14 am

Raddler1 wrote:
Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:07 am
Does anyone find that the modules by themselves in modular sound better than the single instruments? I feel this way with system 72 and Heartbeat.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but modular is not optimized like the individual instruments.

KVRAF
5021 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:11 am

Raddler1 wrote:
Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:07 am
Does anyone find that the modules by themselves in modular sound better than the single instruments? I feel this way with system 72 and Heartbeat.
i dont know, not really.. I mean, i cant run 909 kick into 72 filter outside modular.
perpetual3 wrote:
Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:14 am


Correct me if I’m wrong, but modular is not optimized like the individual instruments.

optimised in what manner?
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KVRAF
1801 posts since 28 Sep, 2012

Post Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:24 am

Ploki wrote:
Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:11 am
Raddler1 wrote:
Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:07 am
Does anyone find that the modules by themselves in modular sound better than the single instruments? I feel this way with system 72 and Heartbeat.
i dont know, not really.. I mean, i cant run 909 kick into 72 filter outside modular.
perpetual3 wrote:
Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:14 am


Correct me if I’m wrong, but modular is not optimized like the individual instruments.

optimised in what manner?
IIRC, softube modular doesn’t do much to reduce CPU. It’s meant to use as much cpu as it “needs” to.

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