Tal J-8

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KVRian
642 posts since 22 Aug, 2002 from on the inside looking out

Post Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:19 am

ghostwhistler wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:34 am
Would you say this is worth purchasing given I already own Diva?
After comparing them extensively, I did. I guess it'll come down to how important the differences between them are to you.

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KVRist
146 posts since 10 Jun, 2007 from Netherlands

Post Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:29 am

Version 1.2.7

CPU optimisations.
Sound quality improvements.
Demo added (jupiter 8 vs tal-j-8)
"Demo added (jupiter 8 vs tal-j-8)" What exactly does that mean?

KVRist
260 posts since 31 Dec, 2020

Post Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:42 am

suthnear wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:19 am
ghostwhistler wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:34 am
Would you say this is worth purchasing given I already own Diva?
After comparing them extensively, I did. I guess it'll come down to how important the differences between them are to you.
Diva is great but I am by no means any kind of expert.

I have the demo for this and it sounds great. Presets alone have already inspired ideas.

I have the TAL LX juno emulation which, bearing in mind the above caveat, i think sounds better than Diva's own. Obviously Diva has more tools to work with, plus the fx. But the TAL is so easy to work with and sounds fantastic, so this looks like more of the same even the Jupiter appears much more complex.

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KVRAF

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10071 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:56 am

mountainmaster wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:29 am
Version 1.2.7

CPU optimisations.
Sound quality improvements.
Demo added (jupiter 8 vs tal-j-8)
"Demo added (jupiter 8 vs tal-j-8)" What exactly does that mean?


I *think*... an audio demo (not a 1.2.7 function, but a website addition)


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KVRian
1070 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide

Post Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:29 am

ghostwhistler wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:34 am
Would you say this is worth purchasing given I already own Diva?
I would say so, yes. :tu:

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KVRist
146 posts since 10 Jun, 2007 from Netherlands

Post Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:05 am

zvenx wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:56 am
mountainmaster wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:29 am
Version 1.2.7

CPU optimisations.
Sound quality improvements.
Demo added (jupiter 8 vs tal-j-8)
"Demo added (jupiter 8 vs tal-j-8)" What exactly does that mean?


I *think*... an audio demo (not a 1.2.7 function, but a website addition)


rsp
That makes sense. Thanks!

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KVRer
14 posts since 20 Sep, 2020

Post Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:16 am

mountainmaster wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:29 am
Version 1.2.7

CPU optimisations.
Sound quality improvements.
Demo added (jupiter 8 vs tal-j-8)
"Demo added (jupiter 8 vs tal-j-8)" What exactly does that mean?
https://tal-software.com/products/tal-j-8

Under the demos tab, you can find an A/B comparison between Patrick's Jupiter and the J-8.

KVRist
284 posts since 27 Nov, 2016

Post Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:02 am

Anyone know the answer to my question on how you get jp-8 to use a different voice circuit each time you press the same key

I've found say D3 keep pressing and always uses same voice so no randomness

Press C3 and go back to D3 and using same voice again

And when set to monophonic no matter the note always uses same voice

Probably user error on my behalf ?

I'd have thought in each case it would randomly pick a voice circuit like Diva does

KVRAF
3151 posts since 2 Jul, 2005

Post Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:38 am

Does the mpe support include release velocity?
Don't F**K with Mr. Zero.

KVRAF
8268 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:16 am

Buckster wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:02 am
Anyone know the answer to my question on how you get jp-8 to use a different voice circuit each time you press the same key

I've found say D3 keep pressing and always uses same voice so no randomness

Press C3 and go back to D3 and using same voice again

And when set to monophonic no matter the note always uses same voice

Probably user error on my behalf ?

I'd have thought in each case it would randomly pick a voice circuit like Diva does
J-8 doesn't do a Round Robin voice allocation. I **believe** the voice allocation is modeled on the hardware but don't have a Jupiter-8 to compare to (anyone can feel free to send one over). The Prophet-5 is another hardware poly from the era which doesn't do a Round Robin allocation. The Prophet will allocate the first note played to voice one, the second to voice two, etc. and will try to reuse those voices where it can, so the voice logic is complicated. In RePro-5, you turn that on (Reallocate Voices - default P5 behavior) or off (Round Robin - not on the original) in the Tweaks page with the Reallocation control. The J-8 doesn't offer that option but it's been requested.

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KVRer
14 posts since 20 Sep, 2020

Post Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:08 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rglo6HQOYz8

I put together, for the first time ever, a preset pack, happy to be able to share it. I would love to hear some feedback on it! I've sent it to Patrick, so maybe it'll get featured in the official website? Dunno. Anyways, here it is!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xpwy6b20x96rn ... k.rar?dl=0

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KVRist
55 posts since 11 Feb, 2020

Post Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:16 pm

Realistortion wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:08 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rglo6HQOYz8

I put together, for the first time ever, a preset pack, happy to be able to share it. I would love to hear some feedback on it! I've sent it to Patrick, so maybe it'll get featured in the official website? Dunno. Anyways, here it is!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xpwy6b20x96rn ... k.rar?dl=0
Good stuff. The string ep patch is soo good.

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KVRAF

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10071 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:45 am

I see Tal J-8 has now been officially released (not sure what that tangibly means :)).
But the RC is now gone in its name on the website and it is in the News section.
TAL-J-8 final release 21.01.2021

We finally released TAL-J-8. An accurate emulation of the legandary Jupiter 8 synthesizer.
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KVRian
1223 posts since 25 Sep, 2011 from Colombia

Post Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:46 am

Loving this thing to death. But my U-NO-LX is feeling kinda useless.

KVRist
41 posts since 21 May, 2015

Post Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:30 pm

Yorrrrrr wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:46 am
Loving this thing to death. But my U-NO-LX is feeling kinda useless.
I thought so too at first, but for bread & butter sounds, the U-NO-LX seems to have bigger sweet spots.

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