One Synth Challenge #144: Rand by Sampleson (schiing Wins! kylebenjamin grabs the single instance prize!)

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KVRist
61 posts since 31 Aug, 2017 from Netherlands

Post Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:29 am

rockingricky wrote:
Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:48 pm
A bit cheesy in my opinion, but to be honest, RAND wouldn't be my first choice
Same here. It's hard to get non-cheesy sounds out of this synth :hihi:

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KVRist
349 posts since 7 Dec, 2006 from Richmond, VA, USA

Post Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:48 am

https://soundcloud.com/hennessey/bh9090 ... y-randelec

16 instances in Cubase 11. DAW effects: DaTube, REValation, Stereo Delay, Compressor, Soft Clipper, Studio EQ, Maximizer, Brickwall Limiter
3rd party: TDR Nova, TAL Dub 2

KVRist
70 posts since 26 Jun, 2018

Post Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:47 am

https://youtu.be/pjD8ejGZqEg

https://soundcloud.com/infravolt/fear-the-unknown
FLAC: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pVqOOr ... sp=sharing

Greetings!

This is my little electro-ambient sketch. All the sound are generated via the big button and than tweaked to taste. It was kinda interesting to create a track using purely random sounds. The instrument itself sounds pretty good for free VST, but unfortunately it has some strange issues with the engine itself. You can hear crackling noise on some sounds. Also, there is no way to make this plugin sound in mono without the external processing. Applying a stereo with control plugins does the job, but makes it sound a little phasy, like a subtle chorus.

After all, I think that "Rand" could be used to learn synthesis, and sometimes it generates very interesting sound effects, but while the sound issues are present and it's feature set is kinda rudimentary in some places (no attenuation for LFO's and envelopes for example) it feels more like a toy than a useful tool.

Composed, arranged, mixed and mastered in FL Studio 20

8 instances of "Rand" used to create a track.

Native Effects:

x3 Parametric EQ 2
x1 Limiter
x2 Stereo Enhancer
x1 Delay
x1 Wave Candy
x1 dB Meter

VST Effects:

x3 TDR "Nova"
x3 TDR & VoS "SlickEQ"
x2 AdHd "Leveling Tool"
x1 Sender Spike "Echobox D7"
x1 VoS "epicVerb"

Master Chain:

TDR "Nova"
Limiter №6

Total:

x8 Generators
x19 Effects
x10 MIDI Patterns
x11 Mixer Tracks
No Audio Clips
x13 Automation Clips
"Music is like traveling. Traveling without moving."
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KVRist
487 posts since 27 Oct, 2015

Post Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:55 am

Good summary, @VCA-089. I can't really see myself using Rand in the future. It doesn't do anything particularly well, and the mono issue was a huge disadvantage in the mixing process, especially for this sort of challenge with lots of stacked instances. A randomiser is always interesting for generating some surprising effects, but I already have my favourites for that (Absynth, Loom, primarily) - and Rand, sadly, did nothing to make me reconsider.

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KVRist
64 posts since 3 Oct, 2019

Post Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:50 am

So, here it is: After struggling with this weird concoction, scrapping everything, struggling again, and still not feeling confident, I present you my submission for this month's installment of OSC:

Give Up, Retry, Lose Again
https://soundcloud.com/original_sebaer/ ... sc144-rand
15 instances of Rand

DAW: Reaper 6.23

Inserts:
Klanghelm MJUCjr
Variety of Sound FerricTDS
Sonic Anomaly Transpire
Cockos ReaComp, ReaEQ, ReaGate
Xfer OTT
DeadDuck DD Limiter, DD Delay
OrilRiver

Sends:
Dragonfly Hall Reverb
Valhalla Supermassive
DeadDuck DD Delay, DD Reverb
Cockos ReaComp, ReaGate
Variety Of Sound FerricTDS

Master Bus:
lkjb Luftikus
TDR Tokelnikov
DeadDuck DD Limiter
Variety of Sound FerricTDS

KVRian
727 posts since 20 Oct, 2003 from Seattle

Post Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:12 am

https://soundcloud.com/jasinski/in-drift-osc-144-rand

An ambient exercise this time. I set a rule for myself this month that all sounds created by using the 'random' button and no tweaking or editing the patches.

20 instances of Rand
Ableton Live Suite 10
EQ8, Compressor, Limiter, Valhalla Super Massive.

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KVRAF
5492 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:35 am

Though one could edit hidden parameters, I thought that Rand isn't very inspiring...
Finally I had an idea what to do with this synth:
I had to hack a mouse!
I wanted to change sounds arbitrarely while improvising with an arpeggiator and some delays. But unfortunately the Push button could not be automated, and also the sound changes after a push of the button would not be notified to the host.
My solution, I hacked a mouse to use it as foot pedal. Therefore I had to simply cover the laser led to prevent the mouse from moving the cursor, place the cursor above the button and then just click the mouse button with my toe...
I made a video of it, but I need to edit it first before I can link to it...
That's my entry:
One instance of Rand, 66 different sounds (counted with a Max patch in the background)
Bitwigs arpeggiator, delay 4 and reverb.
One take, just normalized, no edits...

https://soundcloud.com/ondes-memorielle ... an-osc-144

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KVRian
912 posts since 31 May, 2017

Post Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:55 am

How do you guys get your tracks to sound so loud on SoundCloud? I’m really baffled by how this platform handles loudness. I’ve tried all of the tips and tricks for mastering for SoundCloud or streaming in general but I feel like the better I get my master to sound in my DAW or in iTunes or whatever, the quieter it is on SoundCloud.
And it’s not that I want some super loud, squashed track but I’d really like it not to sound way quieter than the tracks that come before and after it.

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KVRist
64 posts since 3 Oct, 2019

Post Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:14 am

I always check my tracks with this page:
https://www.loudnesspenalty.com/
It runs a script in the browser and tells you how much your track will be turned down by streaming services. Soundcloud is not listed, but I always aim for YouTube/Spotify, as they have the same loudness limit, but Spotify is turning tracks up unlike YouTube. So you get a hint how hard to limit your track.

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KVRian
912 posts since 31 May, 2017

Post Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:27 am

SeBaer wrote:
Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:14 am
I always check my tracks with this page:
https://www.loudnesspenalty.com/
It runs a script in the browser and tells you how much your track will be turned down by streaming services. Soundcloud is not listed, but I always aim for YouTube/Spotify, as they have the same loudness limit, but Spotify is turning tracks up unlike YouTube. So you get a hint how hard to limit your track.
Good idea. I’ve used that before for Spotify because as you say SoundCloud isn’t listed. As I understand it Soundcloud did not used to have any loudness compensation at all but though I haven’t seen anything written about it, I believe they must have recently implemented it without specifying the details. I could be wrong but this “turning down” of my tracks I am experiencing seems to be a new phenomenon. Also they recently launched a LANDR style AI mastering service so I assume that change had something to do with it.

KVRist
32 posts since 26 Sep, 2020 from Glasgow, Scotland

Post Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:33 am

A strange beastie, this Rand, and a strange month all round. This was my second attempt, not sure if it was any better than my first but it is at least more or less done.

As always, good luck and well done to all.

DAW: Cakewalk by BandLab
Synth: Sampleson Rand (29)
FX Plugins: Cakewalk EQ (15), PSP PianoVerb (free), Voxengo OldSkoolVerb, Valhalla SuperMassive (6), Alex Hilton A1 Trigger Gate (4), Xfer OTT (2), Kilohearts Delay, Cakewalk Sonitus Delay, Auburn Sounds Couture (2), TDR Molotok, chowdsp ChowMatrix

Master: LoudMax64bit free

Metering: Voxengo SPAN

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https://soundcloud.com/opdobqo/opdobqo- ... vr-osc-144

(Image credit: "Abandoned Power Station" by Curtis Gregory Perry is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 2.0.)

KVRian
1144 posts since 9 Jan, 2013 from morf

Post Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:45 am

SeBaer wrote:
Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:14 am
I always check my tracks with this page:
https://www.loudnesspenalty.com/
It runs a script in the browser and tells you how much your track will be turned down by streaming services. Soundcloud is not listed, but I always aim for YouTube/Spotify, as they have the same loudness limit, but Spotify is turning tracks up unlike YouTube. So you get a hint how hard to limit your track.
This is interesting :tu:
Just tried it & my track would need to be turned up, quite a bit
Upto +5 in some instances :)
So, when listening please increase your ear bleed level to +5 :D
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KVRAF
1670 posts since 7 Mar, 2014

Post Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:36 pm

Looks like most of the sites are aiming at -14 LUFS ... my track at around -12.1 LUFS needs turning down by -2.1 :P

dB

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KVRist
64 posts since 3 Oct, 2019

Post Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:48 pm

doctorbob wrote:
Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:36 pm
Looks like most of the sites are aiming at -14 LUFS ... my track at around -12.1 LUFS needs turning down by -2.1 :P

dB
I think Soundcloud is taking care of that :wink:

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KVRian
531 posts since 23 Mar, 2011 from Schwerte, Germany

Post Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:50 pm

Random Submission: RuediRena - Vielleicht Stahl (One Big Rush)
https://soundcloud.com/ruedirena/ruedir ... e-big-rush
DAW: Reaper 6.23
Rand: Made 24 instances by pushing the button once and ended up using 22. No tweaking except for some randomized automations.
Plugins:
Tracks: Leet Delay 2, Supermassive, Dragonfly Plate Reverb, MAutoPan, ReaComp, OTT, TDR Nova, Loudmax
Master: Coffee The Pun, Luftikus, MJUCjr, Youlean Loudness Meter 2, SPAN, Airwindows Monitoring
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