VST3 to VST2

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KVRist
63 posts since 24 Jul, 2006

Post Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:34 am

You put it somewhere in your vst2 search path, and it will index all your VST3 plugins and provide a VST2 version, since the VST3 folder is preset by steinberg, there appears to be no configuration nor real need for one.

Plus side is that it seems to produce a less buggy version of padshop

KVRist
137 posts since 8 Mar, 2003 from Cologne

Post Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:06 pm

Henry Jimdrix wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:30 am
polac wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:23 am
I released a vst3 to vst2 wrapper some years ago for Jeskola Buzz, here is a download link for the wrapper, works also with other vst2 hosts:

https://www.xlutop.com/buzz/zip/vst3shell.zip
Not really sure how to use that, are there any instructions on how to use.
Just copy the files to your vst2 folder. It's a so called shell plugin like the ones from Waves(waveshell.dll), I would guess your Ableton 8 is supporting these kind of plugins.

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KVRAF
32544 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:23 pm

Is there a Mac version

KVRian
589 posts since 13 May, 2015

Post Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:33 pm

Halonmusic wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:20 am
DarkStar wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:25 am
Henry Jimdrix wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:58 am
There are more and more developers no longer supporting VST2
I am curious - which ones?
AudioThing.........
WHAT!!!?

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KVRAF
6366 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway

Post Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:51 pm

SHall1000 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:33 pm
Halonmusic wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:20 am
DarkStar wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:25 am
Henry Jimdrix wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:58 am
There are more and more developers no longer supporting VST2
I am curious - which ones?
AudioThing.........
WHAT!!!?
actually it seems they do infact have vst 2 versions of their plugins
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KVRist
65 posts since 3 Dec, 2017 from Niwot, CO

Post Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:57 pm

Sometimes changing the file extension .vst3 to .dll the vst3 can load as a vst2

For a batch file use this open notepad and save as .bat
forfiles /S /M *.vst3 /C "cmd /c copy @file @fname.dll"

To undo it this
forfiles /S /M *.dll /C "cmd /c copy @file @fname.vst3"
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KVRAF
5817 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:29 pm

Halonmusic wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:20 am
DarkStar wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:25 am
Henry Jimdrix wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:58 am
There are more and more developers no longer supporting VST2
I am curious - which ones?
AudioThing, Mellowmuse to name a few. I know there are more but cant remember.
Not sure about all of Roli's products, but Equator 2 is available in standalone, AU and VST3, but no VST2.

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KVRAF
32544 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:24 am

Plasmonic too

KVRAF

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1702 posts since 16 May, 2020 from Taking a dump at the moment

Post Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:45 am

polac wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:06 pm
Henry Jimdrix wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:30 am
polac wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:23 am
I released a vst3 to vst2 wrapper some years ago for Jeskola Buzz, here is a download link for the wrapper, works also with other vst2 hosts:

https://www.xlutop.com/buzz/zip/vst3shell.zip
Not really sure how to use that, are there any instructions on how to use.
Just copy the files to your vst2 folder. It's a so called shell plugin like the ones from Waves(waveshell.dll), I would guess your Ableton 8 is supporting these kind of plugins.
:tu:

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1702 posts since 16 May, 2020 from Taking a dump at the moment

Post Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:49 am

Davidson A & M wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:57 pm
Sometimes changing the file extension .vst3 to .dll the vst3 can load as a vst2

For a batch file use this open notepad and save as .bat
forfiles /S /M *.vst3 /C "cmd /c copy @file @fname.dll"

To undo it this
forfiles /S /M *.dll /C "cmd /c copy @file @fname.vst3"
I would have thought changing the file extension .vst3 to .dll would cause instability issues, most like causing DAW to crash or even possibly a system crash.

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KVRAF
6366 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway

Post Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:44 am

Examigan wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:29 pm
Halonmusic wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:20 am
DarkStar wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:25 am
Henry Jimdrix wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:58 am
There are more and more developers no longer supporting VST2
I am curious - which ones?
AudioThing, Mellowmuse to name a few. I know there are more but cant remember.
Not sure about all of Roli's products, but Equator 2 is available in standalone, AU and VST3, but no VST2.
Strobe2 is available in VST2, AU and AAX, no VST3 version it seems.
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KVRist
470 posts since 23 Jan, 2008 from Hamburg, Germany

Post Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:54 am

Henry Jimdrix wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:49 am
Davidson A & M wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:57 pm
Sometimes changing the file extension .vst3 to .dll the vst3 can load as a vst2

For a batch file use this open notepad and save as .bat
forfiles /S /M *.vst3 /C "cmd /c copy @file @fname.dll"

To undo it this
forfiles /S /M *.dll /C "cmd /c copy @file @fname.vst3"
I would have thought changing the file extension .vst3 to .dll would cause instability issues, most like causing DAW to crash or even possibly a system crash.
A vst3 file is just a regular dll with a different extension. The renaming trick can work because many popular plugin frameworks support both VST2 and VST3 and the easiest way to use the framework is to just compile everything into the same dll. In this case it's just the license that forbids the developer to ship a VST2 version, not the ability to build one.

So it's worth a try but if you need support of any kind then you are on your own.

KVRAF
28836 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:22 am

VPS avenger is VST3 only, I believe.
Plugins and a DAW. On an operating system. Which runs on a computer.

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KVRAF
9621 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:59 am

the new open source stuff is too apparently, like surge

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KVRian
799 posts since 3 Jul, 2006

Post Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:51 am

If you wish to try a free solution, try Element (by kushview).
It's modular, too.
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