Eplex7 DSP releases Klerhaim N1 analog VST plugin synthesizer with virtual circuit emulation technology

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KVRian
1326 posts since 17 Nov, 2007 from Europe

Post Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:39 am

recrusive one ur a big bass! :)

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KVRist

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191 posts since 10 Nov, 2014

Post Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:43 am

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If you think it's easy to make, just a saw wave with retrigger on (common internet wisdom lol)- then just try making something that would holp up against Tristan, E-Clip, Mindbenderz etc.
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recursive one
100% Agree! :tu:
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KVRist
420 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny

Post Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:53 am

recursive one wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:36 am
vertibration wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:24 am
All this talk of "Psytrance Bass" is utterly ridiculous. I am not knocking any genre, but labelling a sound as "genre" bass, is really dumb. This is what happens when you drink the koolaid too much.....smh
Well, man, you are really clueless.

Psytrance bass is just a specific sound that involves a specific technique. Nothing more, nothing less. And yes, it's more or less the same priniciple in 9 or 10 psytrance tracks.

If you think it's easy to make, just a saw wave with retrigger on (common internet wisdom lol)- then just try making something that would holp up against Tristan, E-Clip, Mindbenderz etc.
Im sorry, I dont know who they are.....LMAO. You should be embarrassed with yourself bruh....Psytrance producers are not even in the same league with DnB producers period. Im not talking about amateur's. Take the best psytrance producers out there, and they cant touch Noisia.

You tellin me any of those corny producers come close to what Noisia can do? You smokin crack bruh....go back to bed

KVRAF
5313 posts since 7 Feb, 2013

Post Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:58 am

vertibration wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:53 am
Im sorry, I dont know who they are.....
I don't think this fact would upset them much.
vertibration wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:53 am
Take the best psytrance producers out there, and they cant touch Noisia.
Well, man you are REALLY clueless.
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KVRist
420 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny

Post Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:02 am

recursive one wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:58 am
vertibration wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:53 am
Im sorry, I dont know who they are.....
I don't think this fact would upset them much.
vertibration wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:53 am
Take the best psytrance producers out there, and they cant touch Noisia.
Well, man you are REALLY clueless.
How so? Dont be partisan to your genre of music. Lets base this completely on sound design, and technique. Noisia is literally known for being the best sound design producers on the planet in their respective genre, and many very high profile producers agree.

They are literally huge......Anyone arguing that a Psytrance producer comes close to their accomplishments is ridiculous. Psytrance is a wack genre of music. That is my opinion, and Im sure many would agree its corny AF

KVRAF
5313 posts since 7 Feb, 2013

Post Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:07 am

I'm outta here :shrug:

I have a hard time believing you aren't trolling actually.
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KVRist
420 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny

Post Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:10 am

Peace kid...

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KVRian
1301 posts since 10 Oct, 2018

Post Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:15 am

Huh? Easy to make...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QSwg7fxXsd8

Be my guest :hihi:

KVRist
420 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny

Post Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:18 am

HAHAHAHAHA you guys are smokin METH!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxstMJY2Q28

Get with the program boys, Noisia shits on all that wack psytrance BS

KVRAF
5313 posts since 7 Feb, 2013

Post Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:46 am

Well, if you say something like "this genre has more advanced sound design than that genre" that's a pretty pointless statement in itself.

But actuially there's a lot of stuff at youtube mislabelled as "psytrance" which actually has little or nothing to do with it, like Neelix, Vidi Vici and the like. Maybe that's what you think psytrance it, then I see where you are coming from. That stuff indeed sounds pretty basic.

This is what psytrance actually is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEQ8fP131Dc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-a7G_mRz1Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rDedexD7pM

You may or may not like it but if you think it's easy to make - be my guest lol
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KVRist
420 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny

Post Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:51 am

You know, Im just bustin ballz man.....Enjoy your music. If it makes you happy, thats all that matters.

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KVRian
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Post Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:27 am


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KVRian
1326 posts since 17 Nov, 2007 from Europe

Post Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:19 am

lol nice hit excuse me please! :) cool song btw!

KVRAF
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Post Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:22 am

Eplex7 DSP wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:21 am
[...] for example in mixing 96khz sampling rate over 48khz - 96 mixes are more sharp, more precise but many people dont like so sharp transients they prefer rounder transients, also 96 mixes have more trebles etc. this is not just our opinion but many pro mastering engineers prefers 48khz for this reason. Same in synths (maybe not all but our synth) oscillators are more precise in 96 or higher sampling rate, filters may sound little bit different, same with other components - and overall sound is more precise and sharp but less analogue.
You can just say your code wasn't written for other sample rates. Spreading misinformation whether intentional or not is a huge problem in social media.

Sampling rate differences don't result in "sharp" or "round" or more "precise" or less "analogue" waveforms as long as the signal is under the Nyquist frequency. When DACs reconstruct a continuous signal from digital samples, there is always only one unique solution.

This video is ~24 minutes but sample rate is covered in the first 8.The second half is about bit depth (which is also important and I encourage watching through):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM

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KVRist

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191 posts since 10 Nov, 2014

Post Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:46 am

yellowmix wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:22 am
Eplex7 DSP wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:21 am
[...] for example in mixing 96khz sampling rate over 48khz - 96 mixes are more sharp, more precise but many people dont like so sharp transients they prefer rounder transients, also 96 mixes have more trebles etc. this is not just our opinion but many pro mastering engineers prefers 48khz for this reason. Same in synths (maybe not all but our synth) oscillators are more precise in 96 or higher sampling rate, filters may sound little bit different, same with other components - and overall sound is more precise and sharp but less analogue.
You can just say your code wasn't written for other sample rates. Spreading misinformation whether intentional or not is a huge problem in social media.

Sampling rate differences don't result in "sharp" or "round" or more "precise" or less "analogue" waveforms as long as the signal is under the Nyquist frequency. When DACs reconstruct a continuous signal from digital samples, there is always only one unique solution.

This video is ~24 minutes but sample rate is covered in the first 8.The second half is about bit depth (which is also important and I encourage watching through):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM
Yes we can simplify that our DSP codes are designed for 44,1 kHz (or 48kHz can be used too)
there are 2-4x upsamplings oversamplings inside (to avoid harshness, aliasing, artifacts etc.) so internally synth works at higher samplerates inside.

Of course for example when you are recording sound there is not big difference between 48 and 192kHz sampling rate and one is not rounder and next one sharper (probably 192 has more details) but when you start them processing with DSP codes (vst/au plugins) they behave differently in final results (I mean mixing/mastering in different sampling frequencies)

and thanks for nice video, back in the days we designed simple AD/DA converters at the school :-)
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