Hive 2 or Vital?, that is the question.

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Hive 2 or Vital?

Hive 2
85
45%
Vital
40
21%
They are too different to properly compare
34
18%
I prefer another wavetable option
32
17%
 
Total votes: 191

KVRAF
1600 posts since 5 Oct, 2003

Post Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:37 am

Which is nobler? Money is not the issue, I only have time to learn one. Or maybe there is another wavetable you would recommend (besides Massive X).

AnX
KVRAF
9113 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:52 am

why not learn on the one that's free :wink:

KVRAF
1954 posts since 23 Jun, 2006 from Hungary

Post Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:54 am

Why not choose Dexed and Surge, they are free much longer :)

KVRAF
5285 posts since 7 Feb, 2013

Post Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:56 am

Hive has become my to go synth lately. It sounds great and you can get wide variety of sounds without much effort. I'd say it's a "result-oriented" synth, as opposed to "process-oriented" ones like Vital where you get a lot of features but making it sound any good requires a lot of tweaking and searching for sweet spots.

Vital does have some features Hive doesnt have though, which may or may not be useful for you - like FM, vowel filters and oscillator effects. So I'd get Hive and a free version of Vital and focus on learning Hive while keeping Vital for more "special" kinds of sounds.
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KVRAF
6260 posts since 28 Apr, 2013

Post Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:59 am

Since it's a matter of only wanting to deal with one, then a comparison of the company behind them could be well warranted as well.
Therefore, I default to u-He and Hive.

AnX
KVRAF
9113 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:03 am

dune_rave wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:54 am
Why not choose Dexed and Surge, they are free much longer :)
is dexed a WT synth?

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KVRAF
18493 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Post Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:31 am

killmaster wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:37 am
Which is nobler? Money is not the issue, I only have time to learn one. Or maybe there is another wavetable you would recommend (besides Massive X).
Hive

With 2.1, u-he added the new filters (Comb, Dissonant, Reverb and Sideband) which add a whole new range of sound possibilities. Hive also has a whole lot of subtle but useful functionality that makes it very well rounded.

Hive is easy to have a sound idea and just get to it. It is very polished and solid at this point. The sound quality is high and support is great. Hive has a beautiful clear and clean tone. It also has the Uhm scripts which make a huge variety of different and usefully different wavetables. It uses less cpu than Vital.

I'm happy to have Vital as well. It takes more work to get a result I am satisfied with but it does have some tools Hive doesn't. I use it most for the text to wavetable function for making vocal sounds. Vital is definitely a keeper for me, but of the two, Hive is my first choice if I could only have one.

Regarding other wavetable synth choices:

The other wavetable synth I use is Icarus cause it has a re-synthesis option to make wavetables from audio clips. I use it to turn snippets of various environmental recordings into wavetables. I will frequently then import that wavetable into Hive cause the Hive interpolation is really good.

I'm glad to have Icarus, but I use Hive more often in real projects.

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addled muppet weed
76732 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:37 am

whether tis nobler...

what?

KVRist
166 posts since 1 Mar, 2020

Post Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:38 am

Both. Vital is free.

However my vote goes to Hive 2. U-He is amazing.

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addled muppet weed
76732 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:38 am

AnX wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:03 am
dune_rave wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:54 am
Why not choose Dexed and Surge, they are free much longer :)
is dexed a WT synth?
can a synth be noble?

AnX
KVRAF
9113 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:48 am

vurt wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:38 am
AnX wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:03 am
dune_rave wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:54 am
Why not choose Dexed and Surge, they are free much longer :)
is dexed a WT synth?
can a synth be noble?
negative

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KVRAF
5878 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway

Post Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:52 am

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KVRist
144 posts since 22 Jun, 2019

Post Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:03 am

To me it's more work to make vital sound good, but you should try a little both to see what clicks with you. Definitively should give surge a chance too, all these are amazing but will lead you to differents sounds...

KVRAF

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1600 posts since 5 Oct, 2003

Post Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:43 am

Great info!! Thanks everyone. I'll vote Hive 2 too and going to give Surge a go too.

KVRAF
4851 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Post Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:50 am

killmaster wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:37 am
Money is not the issue
I love this attitude! :party:
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