Arturia Pigments 3 is out!

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KVRAF
1740 posts since 28 Sep, 2012

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:19 am

Muziksculp wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:41 am
telecode wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:38 am
Muziksculp wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:34 am
I wish Pigments 3 sounded warmer, more analog like, it has that very digital, icy, metallic sound that I'm not a fan of.
i think you can tweak it to make it sound any way you want to. i tried it yesterday a bit.. that analog engine is actually really really nice sounding.
Ok. Thanks.

All of the presets have that cold-digital sound to them, I wish they warmed them up during the programming.
Saturate the low-mids.

KVRAF
28836 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:23 am

Good point. I think, out of the box, the sound could be a bit unspectacular, depending on the kind of sound, of course, and could use some extra work.

For wavetable, it works great though. If anything, I sometimes layer a sine wave with the modulator, to give some more low end.
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KVRAF
2463 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:24 am

chk071 wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:40 am
I also wonder why there has been criticism about the analog engine. Couldn't find anything which made it fall short in comparison with the other engines.

Didn't try to make any parcticularly warm sounds with it yet though. But, it didn't strike me as overly cold either. Although wavetable synths definitely tend to sound a bit like that, if alone for the sound of the wavetables itself.

BTW, maybe it's just me, but, the sound of the filters reminds me a bit of the Tone2 filters.
I wondered the same.

I think folks are trying the presets which have been created to present a 'modern' synth sound, and then draw conclusions from that. Sine wave harmonics can easily sound cold and brittle. Same for many wavetables.

So I was testing with two analog engines, with 3 saws each, some unison voices and slight detune, and with a bit of drift. Then added a saw sub osc (-12 semi) in the utility engine, and then routed everything to one Jup-8 LP-24 filter with the high end slightly rolled off. Added some Flanger and Jun-6 Chorus to the FX. Sounds fat and warm to me! It's no Repro, but definitely not cold and brittle!
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KVRian
749 posts since 25 Jul, 2009

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:36 am

Just got it. As a new buyer, so I got the sound sets too. I like what I'm hearing. :tu:

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KVRian
503 posts since 4 Feb, 2021

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:44 am

Wow. Its sequencer has probability triggers too. Usually I have to set up a Reason player for that purpose, but nice to have it included in the synth. My Reason set ups can get cluttered enough already.
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KVRAF
1931 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:47 am

Ehm yes, cpu usage of Harmonic turned out at practice some bummer a bit. Sounds great though.
Will need else to check usage at init condition between v2-v3, at big poly.
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KVRAF
13019 posts since 13 Oct, 2009

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:48 am

TribeOfHǫfuð wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:44 am
Wow. Its sequencer has probability triggers too. Usually I have to set up a Reason player for that purpose, but nice to have it included in the synth. My Reason set ups can get cluttered enough already.
I like this feature as well. Ok, I was going to say more than that, but I just decided not to, so there you go, a lame "me too" comment.

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KVRian
503 posts since 4 Feb, 2021

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:55 am

ghettosynth wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:48 am
I like this feature as well. Ok, I was going to say more than that, but I just decided not to, so there you go, a lame "me too" comment.
+1
(just beat you on the lame scale :clown: )
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KVRAF
4389 posts since 26 Apr, 2007 from Noosphere

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:49 am

telecode wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:15 am
Igro wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:41 am
Is it me or v3 CPU usage is much higher than in v2? My i7 laptop (but 5 years old) is struggling...
I feel that the quality of the synth has been improved comparing to v2, if that is the case.
I dont think I noticed CPU usage spike.. but how do you test? How do you launch V2 after you upgrade to V3?
I used v2 a lot. I made pads wih many voices and unison. It was not that CPU intensive.
Harmonic module is a cpu killer, but I'm glad that i prefer the minimum amount of partials cos i like that additive lo-fi sound.

KVRAF
13019 posts since 13 Oct, 2009

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:57 am

zzz00m wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:24 am
It's no Repro
You have just stated what people are thinking. It's not about just trying presets. The first thing that I do is setup a quick patch to try the filters, conclusion, it's no repro.

KVRAF
28836 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:59 am

You guys are totally right. It's no RePro. It's Pigments. :ud:

Dunno why RePro is such a thing here anyway. It might be a great emulation, but, the synth it is based on doesn't sound as good as, say, the Minimoog to me.

Apart from being totally different in nature to Pigments, of course. If you want to compare it with something from u-he (dunno why, but, whatever), you should rather compare it to something like Zebra.
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KVRist
62 posts since 4 Apr, 2021

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:49 pm

Teksonik wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:30 am
Bartone wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:16 am
Hi!

I can’t find curve option for Envelopes’s release? Maybe I am missing something?
Maybe this ? Mouse over the symbol to the right of the Release knob.



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No, I mean curve just for release. So the release curve can be independently modified. This option makes release slave to decay. Or am I doing something wrong here?

KVRAF
28836 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:52 pm

I miss an option to set the release slope too. Would be great to have. Either that, or, a longer release stage.
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KVRAF
2463 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:03 pm

chk071 wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:59 am
If you want to compare it with something from u-he (dunno why, but, whatever), you should rather compare it to something like Zebra.
Now that's a great idea for another KVR thread someone needs to start. Maybe include a poll too! :lol:
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KVRian
503 posts since 4 Feb, 2021

Post Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:41 pm

It is very non-Arturia for an Arturia synth. GUI is more functional than photo fancy. The keys graphics must be their worst till this day. The analog section neither claims itself nor is a (half-full) wannabee. The digital sections seem to be crafted with care and efficiency. It is the first Arturia synth in their history that has gone wow on me, but given the above, it may not be such a surprise after all.
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