Looking for an alternative to Synthmaster One

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KVRAF
28116 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Sat May 01, 2021 5:32 am

ferez21 wrote:
Sat May 01, 2021 1:56 am
I gonna demo it but is Vital really as good as commercial synths?
It is a commercial synth.
Plugins and a DAW. On an operating system. Which runs on a computer.

KVRer
18 posts since 4 Apr, 2021

Post Sat May 01, 2021 6:07 am

Vital can be CPU heavy. But it is very professional synth I would say. I mean it feels/looks like some very expensive synth (or even better than some very expensive synths - Vital is easy to get around for sound design & for preset browsing compared to some other expensive synths).

KVRist
80 posts since 16 Jul, 2018

Post Sat May 01, 2021 9:44 am

chk071 wrote:
Sat May 01, 2021 5:32 am
ferez21 wrote:
Sat May 01, 2021 1:56 am
I gonna demo it but is Vital really as good as commercial synths?
It is a commercial synth.
Not exactly.

KVRAF
28116 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Sat May 01, 2021 9:46 am

Plugins and a DAW. On an operating system. Which runs on a computer.

KVRAF
28116 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Sat May 01, 2021 9:46 am

If it was free, he'd offer it for free. The full thing.
Plugins and a DAW. On an operating system. Which runs on a computer.

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KVRian
1423 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit Sol III

Post Sat May 01, 2021 10:33 am

ferez21 wrote:
Sat May 01, 2021 1:56 am
CrystalWizard wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:10 pm
How about Omnisphere?

Totally joking! but i didn't see you mention if you tried Vital?
I gonna demo it but is Vital really as good as commercial synths?
How would you rate the raw sound quality?
Well, see my rant about "goof" in the Filter thread. For me, yeah, it's as good s commercial synths Yes, sounds good. It will get a bit of refinement.
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KVRist
115 posts since 24 Jan, 2021

Post Sat May 01, 2021 1:00 pm

maxym.srpl wrote:
Sat May 01, 2021 9:44 am
chk071 wrote:
Sat May 01, 2021 5:32 am
ferez21 wrote:
Sat May 01, 2021 1:56 am
I gonna demo it but is Vital really as good as commercial synths?
It is a commercial synth.
Not exactly.
Users pay for it. That's commerce right there.

The stigma of "free" mostly comes from hobby projects whose developers can't put in the time they would need to deliver a really polished product. For Matt Tytel, the developer of Vital, that is not a problem. He's made it his job, and it's financially successful to the point that he can talk about hiring additional developers.

He is also not the first successful developer to produce both freebies and paid products. U-he and Cherry Audio do the same thing, and their free products even use the same tech as their most expensive synths. Vital stands out a little more because the free tier is nearly as powerful as the paid tiers, but they're still differentiated by piles of extra content like presets and wavetables.
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KVRer
18 posts since 25 Apr, 2021

Post Sat May 01, 2021 1:24 pm

Bartone wrote:
Sat May 01, 2021 6:07 am
Vital can be CPU heavy. But it is very professional synth I would say. I mean it feels/looks like some very expensive synth (or even better than some very expensive synths - Vital is easy to get around for sound design & for preset browsing compared to some other expensive synths).
Agree. More copy/paste functions between oscs would add even more workflow points to the "most fastest synth".

KVRAF
8046 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Post Sat May 01, 2021 1:35 pm

I hope you folks are in contact with kv331 and fls support. I'd be surprised if a fix took very long.
Good luck!

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KVRian
1049 posts since 21 Apr, 2017 from Bahia, Brazil

Post Sat May 01, 2021 2:08 pm

glokraw wrote:
Sat May 01, 2021 1:35 pm
I hope you folks are in contact with kv331 and fls support. I'd be surprised if a fix took very long.
Good luck!

Good point. Bulent is very responsive.
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KVRAF
2411 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Post Sat May 01, 2021 2:09 pm

Teksonik wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:28 pm
zzz00m wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:29 am
Then I demoed Hive2, and decided it was too much like SynthMaster One to justify the price tag.
It's more correct to say Synthmaster One is too much like Hive 2.
That's ironic, as SynthMaster One predates Hive 2 by a couple of years... perhaps you meant to say Hive 1.0?

https://u-he.com/products/hive/releasenotes.html
May 28, 2019
Hive 2.0 (revision 8676)

https://soundbytesmag.net/synthmasteronefromkv331audio/
Synthmaster One is a new wavetable synth from KV331 Audio – it’s certainly worth a look if you’re a fan of KV331, and if you’re not a fan, you may become one.

by David Baer, May 2017
Windows10; plugins from AAS, Ableton, AIR, Ample, Arturia, Cakewalk, Cherry, DiscoDSP, Fathom, IKM, Initial, iZotope, KV331, NI, PluginGuru, PreSonus, Surge, TAL, Tone2, Toontrack, Tracktion, u-he, UJAM, UVI, Vital, Waves, XLN ...

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KVRAF
15225 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Sat May 01, 2021 2:31 pm

Well you're right I just remembered Urs' comment. I thought it was in reference to Hive 2 but hell I can barely remember what I had for breakfast these days.
Urs wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:35 pm
4damind wrote:Btw. for people where Hive has not awoken the interest, there is also the new Synthmaster One available since some days.
I take its layout as a compliment. Might show that Hive's UI concept is "just right" :clown:
Were you feverishly googling that info for this long ? :P
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KVRAF
2411 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Post Sat May 01, 2021 2:47 pm

Teksonik wrote:
Sat May 01, 2021 2:31 pm
Well you're right I just remembered Urs' comment. I thought it was in reference to Hive 2 but hell I can barely remember what I had for breakfast these days.
Urs wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:35 pm
4damind wrote:Btw. for people where Hive has not awoken the interest, there is also the new Synthmaster One available since some days.
I take its layout as a compliment. Might show that Hive's UI concept is "just right" :clown:
Were you feverishly googling that info for this long ? :P
No, actually I remembered Urs' comment. I just googled up supporting facts, because I'm not one to make a baseless unsupported claim... :D
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KVRAF
15225 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Sat May 01, 2021 5:41 pm

Well my claim was based on faulty memories so I guess it was baseless. I hope you feel better now. :tu:
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KVRian
871 posts since 27 Apr, 2012

Post Sat May 01, 2021 6:03 pm

chk071 wrote:
Sat May 01, 2021 9:46 am
If it was free, he'd offer it for free. The full thing.
Apart from one gimmicky feature that a majority of users probably don't care about (and which is limited, not absent in the free version), the free version is identical in functionality to the most expensive paid version. The only difference is the included presets and wavetables. Lots of synths I own have optional sound content you can buy that I don't have, but I still consider myself to own the full synth. Same with Vital; it seems pretty strange to insist that it's not free just because there is add-on soundware content you can buy.
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