Moreover, what we ascribe to the filter may be more than a function of just what's in the filter. Our perception can even be colored by how the U/I interacts with the filter.
This is definitely true - most of the modulation inputs in bitwig are measured in semitones and are INCREDIBLY WIDE which is super flexible but can make dialling in a good sound have narrower sweet spots on the knob compared to programming in a juno 60 clone or similar where most of the slider is what I'd call good and usable travel.
Absolutely! These are objective, quantifiable values we can all agree on.
Totally agree with this. That "oomph" you're talking about when closing the filter isn't there on the Arturia filters at all, which is especially what makes them so lacklustre for me.jules99 wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 4:27 amThe main aspect that makes Moog'S filters so appealing in my ear is their behavior in the low frequency area once you start turning down the cutoff. This is Arturia's weak spot. Their filter emulations have pretty well sounding resonances, but as soon as you start filtering a bit more, the body of the sound sounds thin. Vital's filters don't behave as bad, but still have a tendency to sound harsh and thin.
The best Moog emulations (among them Monark and Diva in my opinion) achieve this low frequency behavior. The Drop does this as well.
This is wat make these threads so amusing to me, and also why I in another thread was asking if people here don't produce any music at all, and are only listening to the plugins individuallychk071 wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 5:35 amYou know... thinking about it... if you need to ask what qualities make a good filter, then I don't think you should even bother about the whole thing at all. Might sound evil, but, ignorance is sometimes better than to realize that you can't hear the difference between a good and a bad filter. Or you might just not give a damn at all, which is perfectly fine as well.
Make no mistake. If it's like in the emulations, then the Minimoog filter saturates quite a bit.