One Synth Challenge #149: VeeSeeVSTRack (Voting Started!)

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KVRist
272 posts since 29 Nov, 2019

Post Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:06 am

liqih wrote:
Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:48 pm
... there are so many modules...
Much like Zarf's, my mind was blown. I'm still trying to put all the overwhelmed pieces together again. :hihi:

DASH Guy
7681 posts since 20 Sep, 2001

Post Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:03 am

ELEX wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:06 am
liqih wrote:
Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:48 pm
... there are so many modules...
Much like Zarf's, my mind was blown. I'm still trying to put all the overwhelmed pieces together again. :hihi:
Yep, I knew I would have to face that, hence I choose one main module to stick with for this OSC.
So far resonator/annuli is very rewarding for my goal: guitars, tabla and strange effects.
http://nusofting.com
NUSofting : Peti Modelonia Sinnah

KVRer
5 posts since 11 Jun, 2021

Post Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:05 pm

So i'm using JS poly_mono_midi_router: Dynamic poly/mono MIDI router from tale in reaper to route polyphonic midi to mono VeeSeeVST instances. Its working ok but i think i'll need to wait until 2040 and we have CPU's with 1000s of cores. Its maxing out my cpu pretty quickly which is a shame.

KVRAF
1704 posts since 7 Mar, 2014

Post Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:20 am

I use pizMidiPolyphony myself for feeding mono synths!

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KVRist
272 posts since 29 Nov, 2019

Post Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:36 am

Though still staying stubbornly monophonic myself in these cases, here's a thought: if a plugin allows MIDI input channel selection, all mono synths can be put on the same track in REAPER and (selected) parameters can be linked to one instance for easy patch editing.

IV!
KVRist
284 posts since 31 Oct, 2019

Post Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:27 am

Heh, I'm probably happy with everything) VeeSeeVST works for me as it should; and for me, who has never programmed absolutely modular synthesizers, 800+ modules is a colossal! Of course, I would be happy if this noble guy repeated his feat with a new version of VCV! I also do not exclude that the announced official version of the VCV Rack VST will be the first commercial synthesizer I have ever purchased. Now, for this month of OSC, the opportunity to make an acceptable 4-voice polyphony is more than enough for me, and monophony in VCV does not seem to be a minus with its capabilities. You just start thinking differently... Modular synth is incredible! :wheee:

P.S. Many thanks to Taron for the training patches! :hug: (although they were not intended for me :hihi: ) An excellent and understandable example of polyphony and basic synthesis! And the "Color Worm" patch showed me that "One Instance" and complex patches are not my way - yes, my computer crashes from this exploding sequence! :lol: :lol: :lol:

P.P.S. As I understood the talk about gray areas (and green men :hihi: ) - I do not use generators that use samples, but otherwise I am free in everything that happens inside the VCV. Correct me if something has changed, I didn't have the strength to read the entire Slack General Thread in the two weeks that I wasn't here! :lol:

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KVRist
117 posts since 16 Mar, 2018 from Canada

Post Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:38 pm

I keep making up excuses not to just open up my DAW and play with VeeSee. That's it. Waking up at 5am before work, and forcing myself to plug and unplug stuff. :ud: Wish me luck!

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KVRist
272 posts since 29 Nov, 2019

Post Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:55 pm

Good luck !

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KVRAF
6843 posts since 30 Apr, 2019

Post Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:19 pm

I use VCV Rack a lot so would suggest if people want to use a host DAW for the full VCV Rack then they could look at Reaper as it allows you to use ReaRoute to channel audio to and from the DAW.
If you’re on Windows loopMIDI works for sending MIDI to and from VCV Rack too.
But, the VCV Recorder module in standalone is perfectly fine for capturing audio plus can even save video of your patch and how you interact with it if you want.
https://library.vcvrack.com/VCV-Recorder/Recorder

For anyone using full blown VCV Rack I highly recommend using Stoermelder’s free pack one utility modules as they simplify so many things like an improved browser, working with CC parameters etc.
https://library.vcvrack.com/?brand=stoermelder

IV!
KVRist
284 posts since 31 Oct, 2019

Post Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:22 am

WatchTheGuitar wrote:
Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:19 pm
I use VCV Rack a lot so would suggest if people want to use a host DAW for the full VCV Rack then they could look at Reaper as it allows you to use ReaRoute to channel audio to and from the DAW.
If this works well, then ReaRoute as part of ReaPlugs exists as separate VST Plugins for any DAW. I'll check it out too, thank you! :tu:

IV!
KVRist
284 posts since 31 Oct, 2019

Post Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:29 am

Aro wrote:
Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:38 pm
I keep making up excuses not to just open up my DAW and play with VeeSee. That's it. Waking up at 5am before work, and forcing myself to plug and unplug stuff. :ud: Wish me luck!
Just plug and unplug random stuff I got the most presets for all OSC! :lol: This method works; just keep doing it and don't forget to save what you like. By the end of the month, you will have collected enough sounds to compose something with them. Well and... good luck! :tu:

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KVRist
272 posts since 29 Nov, 2019

Post Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:19 am

IV! wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:22 am
If this works well, then ReaRoute as part of ReaPlugs exists as separate VST Plugins for any DAW. I'll check it out too, thank you! :tu:
ReaRoute has nothing to do with ReaPlugs ( which does contain ReaStream for audio/MIDI via LAN. ) ReaRoute shows up as an ASIO driver in applications. One has to install REAPER to get it.

KVRist
38 posts since 30 Dec, 2020

Post Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:00 am

i've been meaning to get into vcv for a while, so i'm happy this challenge forced me to finally take the plunge. :)

i started out using veeseevst in cakewalk but my cpu is starting to creak (which is at least partially a cakewalk issue, it tends to not be as efficient as i would like sometimes) and i still want to add more stuff, so i might switch over to the standalone. importing the same project seems to work mostly fine. it seemed like a decent starting point to restrict myself to only the modules in veeseevst but i have discovered a few later ones that are quite tempting...

seconding the recommendation of omri cohen's youtube channel, for anyone who likes to learn that way.

the audible instruments modules seem to be very useful once you figure them out, but doing so takes some work and they are not very intuitive. recommended if you have the time to spare and want to go deep, not so much if you want to get something quickly up and running. random sampler (aka marbles) is my favorite so far, a slowly (or quickly or not at all) evolving, optionally quantized s&h/sequencer which is great for anything generative. could see using it to generate midi data for other projects in the future.

a question, how do you all feel about using external audio as a cv source? the hot tuna module has the ability to convert pitch information to cv, and i always wanted to try hooking up a theremin to control something like a filter frequency... kind of like using it as a midi controller. might not be right for this particular project anyways, but i'm curious if it would be within the spirit of the challenge.

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KVRist
272 posts since 29 Nov, 2019

Post Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:39 am

emikaela wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:00 am
i started out using veeseevst in cakewalk but my cpu is starting to creak
Well, I'm using REAPER, which is supposed to be efficient, but my CPU creaks also. I think track freezing may be necessary for me.
emikaela wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:00 am
a question, how do you all feel about using external audio as a cv source? the hot tuna module has the ability to convert pitch information to cv, and i always wanted to try hooking up a theremin to control something like a filter frequency... kind of like using it as a midi controller. might not be right for this particular project anyways, but i'm curious if it would be within the spirit of the challenge.
Using a theremin as a controller is perfectly alright imo. Wish I had one myself. And thanks for pointing out Hot Tuna. :tu: I'll be sure to check that one out.

KVRist
38 posts since 30 Dec, 2020

Post Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:02 am

ELEX wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:39 am
Using a theremin as a controller is perfectly alright imo. Wish I had one myself. And thanks for pointing out Hot Tuna. :tu: I'll be sure to check that one out.
it's in the nysthi collection, so sadly not in veeseevst if you're using that. i haven't found anything in there yet with that functionality. and i now discovered that p2v in the same collection is apparently a more specialized module for doing exactly that without the tuner part, to save a little bit of cpu i guess.

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