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KVRAF
2394 posts since 13 Jun, 2014

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:41 am

I managed to get Triton extreme and Polysix to work fine with no issues. The big display is a huge welcome for both. But sheesh, Korg is way behind the likes of Arturia in terms of quality software and support.
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KVRist
364 posts since 16 Sep, 2005

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:48 am

BONES wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:29 pm
The M1 VST is just a sample playback machine. It doesn't even have a resonant filter, FFS..
Thats not correct
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KVRist
268 posts since 1 Feb, 2014

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:48 am

Triton version 1.3 don't change drum sample for black keys in drum kit, for white keys I can change a drum sample. It is demo limitation or bug?
Also, as mentioned in this topic, if PROG Digital is changed (on main menu) it is instant crash for Triton.
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KVRian
803 posts since 4 Feb, 2021

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:53 am

So cool. Yesterday I regretted selling my Prophecy recently because I could use some of its physical modeling. Today I have a replication in software. Was the only synth I bought, however, owned the legacy collection and never liked their analog emulations.
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KVRian
770 posts since 28 Jul, 2006

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:02 am

i can't even install the software. I start the Software Pass program and it says there's a newer version available with a big red download button. I press the download button and nothing happens.

NM figured it out, but Korgs disorganization is a mess for it's customers.
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KVRer
4 posts since 19 Jun, 2021

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:09 am

I won't be purchasing the collection yet.
You're still not able to load pcg data from the original Triton... very disappointed 😞

KVRist
190 posts since 13 Jul, 2021

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:12 am

toitoi wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:48 am
BONES wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:29 pm
The M1 VST is just a sample playback machine. It doesn't even have a resonant filter, FFS..
Thats not correct
Image
The M1 also has oscillators, maybe a bit of a push to describe it as a sample playback machine?
The filter VDF (Variable Digital Filter), low-pass velocity sensitive (non-resonant)
Perhaps Bones meant it was non resonant?

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KVRAF
2684 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from A Swede Living in Budapest

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:14 am

toitoi wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:48 am
BONES wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:29 pm
The M1 VST is just a sample playback machine. It doesn't even have a resonant filter, FFS..
Thats not correct
Image
If my memory serves me right, the hardware M1 didn't have a resonant filter. I think that was the reason why I went with the Kawai K4 way back when. Anyway - good that Korg added a resonant filter in the software version.

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KVRAF
1910 posts since 6 Jul, 2013

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:40 am

Norqa wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:12 am
The M1 also has oscillators, maybe a bit of a push to describe it as a sample playback machine?
Well, it *is* a sample playback machine - the oscillators just play samples.
DrGonzo wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:14 am
If my memory serves me right, the hardware M1 didn't have a resonant filter.
At this time, Korg were using Yamaha chips, and Yamaha did not have digital chips that implemented good filters - so none of those machines, including the M1 and Wavestation, had "proper" filters - probably one of the weakest parts of them - and so much so Korg added them into the virtual re-inc-ulations (see what I did there?) to make them more useful.

I remember various people who developed the Wavestation talking about the lack of digital filters in the chips they had available at the time, much to their disappointment - otherwise they would have had them built-in to the original hardware...

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KVRist
425 posts since 3 Feb, 2015 from UK

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:43 am

Arashi wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:40 pm
mgelon wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:33 pm
Arashi wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:54 pm
There's still no upgrade path for people who bought the original Legacy Collection, then bought the ARP Odyssey plugin separately. I own all the same things as the "Special Bundle", but can't get the Special Bundle upgrade price.
I've been in a similar situation, buying them all separately before the Triton (and not completing/consolidating the group before the korguser to korg id migration). I had emailed support about consolidating licenses when Legacy Collection 2 released, but it seemed like a brick wall.

I'm thinking of trying a new email that very clearly describes how poor the deal is- I own 7 of the 11 products, and if I want LC3, it's $299.00 in this sale, the same price someone who owns 0 would pay. That does not make any sense. I'm assuming their internal system is not set up to perform these kind of edge-case license scenarios.
I emailed support today as well. If they want my money, they'll sort it out…otherwise I'll pass. Not going to pay twice for the ARP Odyssey plugin.
Similar deal here - I own the Odyssey, M1, Wavestation, MS-20, PolySix, and Mono/Poly, purchased from KorgUser/ID over the years and there's no upgrade option. I also emailed support this morning so we'll see where that goes, but at $299 that's a hard no.

KVRist
79 posts since 31 Oct, 2015

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:47 am

Still wondering why we can’t try Odyssey :dog:

KVRian
957 posts since 27 Jun, 2009 from Germany

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:30 am

Not sure whether I am missing something here. Personally, I am not so interested in the Prophecy and Tritons, but I would have liked the resizable GUI on the MS-20, Mono/Poly etc. Was there ever any upgrade path to those versions, which I missed? Is there still a way to upgrade to those?

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GRRRRRRR!
12468 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:36 am

toitoi wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:48 am
Thats not correct
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That's what happens when you make assumptions, because the M1 never had a resonant filter and I never got that far with the VSTi because it just sounded bleh. So now I have to point out that the VSTi not only sounds bad but it's a shit emulation because they didn't even get the filter right!
Norqa wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:12 am
The M1 also has oscillators, maybe a bit of a push to describe it as a sample playback machine?
It is the quintessential ROMpler and a ROMpler is a sample playback machine.
The filter VDF (Variable Digital Filter), low-pass velocity sensitive (non-resonant)
Perhaps Bones meant it was non resonant?
That's what I meant but, as the image shows very clearly, I was wrong. Not for the first time, either, I should point out.
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KVRist
190 posts since 13 Jul, 2021

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:31 am

beely wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:40 am

Well, it *is* a sample playback machine - the oscillators just play samples.
I suppose it is when you put it like that. :)
I cannot argue on that point.

Btw beely how is the convertor you promised for the Roland JV going?
At one point you punted it like there is no tomorrow but then the euphoria drained like a lead brick :)
Abandonware?

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KVRAF
7853 posts since 30 Apr, 2019

Post Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:39 am

martin_l wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:30 am
Not sure whether I am missing something here. Personally, I am not so interested in the Prophecy and Tritons, but I would have liked the resizable GUI on the MS-20, Mono/Poly etc. Was there ever any upgrade path to those versions, which I missed? Is there still a way to upgrade to those?
The GUI update to MS20 etc was free if you owned them. I think you just had to make sure you registered on their newer web site. Think they sent out emails about it to existing owners about 18 months ago.

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