Toneboosters Flowtones Synth

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KVRian
646 posts since 11 Mar, 2010

Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:21 pm

Double post, sorry.

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KVRian
646 posts since 11 Mar, 2010

Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:23 pm

I think it sounds good, but it badly needs an easier way to display the modulated parameters (animated indicators would be great). And, of course, a mod matrix. 3 envelopes, 4 LFOs and no mod matrix? That makes absolutely no sense.
Also, there should be a way to link the amp and filters envelopes between oscillators. Most of the time I don't need separated envelopes for each oscillator.

TLDR, it's got a really bad workflow, IMO, against competition (very fierce these days). I hope it gets improved.

KVRer
19 posts since 4 Oct, 2010

Post Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:19 am

When a plugin needs such a drastic change from version 1.0.2 to 1.0.3 it's a bad sign. Also, versions of all TB plugins are updated without any sense of scale - a simple bug fix is treated the same as important new feature or big GUI alteration and gets an x.x.1 increase. Most developers would treat this GUI change worthy of version 2, or at least 1.1.

As a happy owner of several TB plugins, I'm sad to admit that Flowtones is underachiver (at the moment). Aside from offputting interface layout and confusing workflow, for me the biggest turn-off is the core synthesis engine. I've expected something else/more than subtractive OSCs with ring modulation (c'mon, it's 2021!). No amount of "vintageness" or post processing can fix that. The sounds coming out of it are super-MEH, I've installed and uninstalled it two times (v1.0.3 was a second chance) in under 10 minutes, without a hint of regret.

KVRAF
2450 posts since 1 Sep, 2016

Post Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:29 am

I think it can make some nice sounds, but I find a lot of those extra waveforms a bit samey and not all that useful. I don't think it really needed 9 types of 'saw full pulse'.

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KVRist
173 posts since 29 Dec, 2012

Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:58 am

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KVRer
26 posts since 12 Jul, 2015

Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:00 am

It's their first synth. Synthesizers are not easy. Give them constructive criticism. Flowtones have some cool, unique features.

KVRAF
5000 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:24 pm

What’s unique about it?
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KVRAF
6752 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway

Post Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:49 pm

have no idea
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KVRer
26 posts since 12 Jul, 2015

Post Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:19 am

Ploki wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:24 pm
What’s unique about it?
What synth you have in mind to compare with it?

KVRAF
5000 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:29 am

a9k1tp wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:19 am
Ploki wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:24 pm
What’s unique about it?
What synth you have in mind to compare with it?
None in particular, just wondering what do you think is unique to it.

One (and probably the only) thing that stands out to me is intelligent randomiser.
There's randomisers in few drum synths, but i don't think i've seen one in general synths.
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KVRAF
16432 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:53 am

Future1313 wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:58 am
Here are 100 High-Quality-Patches as a Thank-You Present for
the excellent ToneBoosters - Flowtones Virtual Synthesizer.
Although I don't own Flowtones yet I want to thank you for your generosity in sharing patches not just for this synth but for all the others on your site as well. Thank you for being a contributing member of the community :tu:
Ploki wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:29 am
i don't think i've seen one in general synths.
I don't know if they quality as "intelligent" but Tone 2 synths have a randomiser or at least Warlock does.

As much as I like making my own patches I've found Warlock's randomiser about 90% effective at creating usable and often times inspiring patches. :tu:

Anyway my dyslexic brain can not see Flowtones without reading Flowstone. :?
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

KVRAF
5000 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:57 am

Oh. Its flowTones. I just read it as flowstones lol
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KVRAF
2278 posts since 8 Dec, 2008 from Global Cowboy

Post Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:00 am

Unfortunately,at the moment that synth should be called Fizz Tone :wink:
No auto tune and iLok free...

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KVRian
1057 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA

Post Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:06 am

Despite the somewhat harsh criticism from a few here, Flowtones is off to a great start. The updated GUI is a huge improvement, and the synth sounds great. I've never seen a GUI updated so quickly based on user feedback.

As for areas where improvement is needed: I would really like to see modulation improved. There is no aftertouch, and there should really be a way for velocity, modwheel, and aftertouch to scale LFO and envelopes on all mod destinations (rather than just mw+lfo on pitch). LFO Rand is not random, and so there is no real S+H LFO. Osc drift would also be a welcome addition.

The effects section, as one would expect from TB, is excellent.

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KVRAF
2278 posts since 8 Dec, 2008 from Global Cowboy

Post Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:25 pm

teilo wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:06 am
Despite the somewhat harsh criticism from a few here, Flowtones is off to a great start....
For the record,I'm a Toneboosters fanboi since the early days and the effects plugins are first call for me...

Unfortunately,Flowtones (silly name) hasn't hit the spot, or even come close at this stage...

It's up against some stiff competition in a crowded marketplace and it needs more than a GUI update and a few small tweaks to get it up to speed :wink:
No auto tune and iLok free...

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