Plogue OPS7 (bit-accurate DX7 emulation!)
- KVRAF
- 13212 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica
He actually managed to own some of the IP of his work at Roland, can't say for certain if the recorded attack samples in D-50 (which is why no one can illegally use the ROM) are part of those, but a few of those D-50 'samples' are now in Omnisphere.
You are also aware I assume that Roland has (re-)released their own D-50 hardware and software versions.
But yeah f IP, give it all away free.
Free to the Masses!!
smh
rsp
You are also aware I assume that Roland has (re-)released their own D-50 hardware and software versions.
But yeah f IP, give it all away free.
Free to the Masses!!
smh
rsp
sound sculptist
- KVRian
- 876 posts since 12 Jan, 2004 from Boston, MA
Yes. At the point the D-50 emulation came out (BTW, I don't even know the name of it, it went up and got taken down so fast I didn't even SEE it, I just heard about it a few days later), there was no such thing.
...And part of me does wonder if Persing's fuss about it then was BECAUSE he knew Roland was making their own clone "soon" and that he would be getting kickbacks on it, so the competition wasn't good. But that's my inner CT, and I hope I'm wrong. Plus, I digress. Again.
Well, again: I don't mean to derail the thread, but, briefly: I do actually believe in IP. In my ideal world, it would last 10 years. I could maybe have my arm twisted in to believing 20 would be "better," but it would take some serious convincing to get me there. 30 years is f**king absurd. And "life of the creator plus 30 with an option to renew" or whatever the law currently is, frankly, disgusting. ...Shit. I said I would be brief! Someone hit my button. Sorry. Calming down, now.
- KVRAF
- 13212 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica
But why is that a bad thing if he knew Roland or Spectrasonics were going to do something with the IP and therefore blocked the illegal use of the IP. (I assume you know recordings (Audio samples) are protected).
If you want the D-50 sounds they are options (a used D-50, Omnisphere (to a much much lesser extent), D-05 and Roland Cloud's D-50), if you want a free version well that is a different story.
rsp
If you want the D-50 sounds they are options (a used D-50, Omnisphere (to a much much lesser extent), D-05 and Roland Cloud's D-50), if you want a free version well that is a different story.
rsp
sound sculptist
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- KVRAF
- 6110 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent
This !
I already have a tg77 but a plogue emulation would be the bees knees , but also a titan's task
All the yamaha rom cards can be found on sector z who makes the data and waveblade cards for the tg-sy range
https://www.sector101.co.uk/waveblade.html
It's pretty crazy when you think about it , Yamaha must be aware that their Rom set is freely available yet they take no legal action , imagine if it would be Roland
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- KVRAF
- 7751 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
Is there any way to use the Bin files from those Roms in existing plugins for now? I am guessing that would be a No, as they were made for the TG-77.
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- KVRAF
- 7751 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
Don't want to derail it either, but yes, F.'em has 2 sample based operators for each of the 4 layers.Introspective wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:25 pm OrionAlpha101 might look into F'em, which (I don't own, but) I think has both FM and ROMpler-like abilities, so you might be able to program similar sounds.
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- KVRAF
- 1570 posts since 14 Jul, 2018
BlackWinny made a wonderful cleaned up compilation of all tose (tens-of-) thousands of sysexBartizanier wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:21 amHey I a a pretty new OPS7 user, would you care to elaborate on where I might find stuff like this, if its allowed here, thanks!
for the dexed plugin...
...should be working with the ops7...
https://www.audiobombs.com/items/1038/dexed-cart-1.0
maybe here's a more direct link :
http://asb2m10.github.io/dexed/
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- KVRAF
- 2641 posts since 23 Jun, 2006 from Hungary
I'd like to buy this synth, but the 4 minute demo is embarrassing.
I have known all fm synth in the market, used almost all, sold some, uninstalled some, currently use Dexed. I don't need fancy modern features found in fm8 or DX7 V, that's why OPS7 is just what I need!
I really like the classic fm sounds, and have many sysex too. Like this Dual layer architecture (however I layer things in Unify, so rather plan to do my layering in that plugin).
But back to the main thing I'd like to say: the 4 minute demo is a wrong decision, this is an obstacle for the user. I can't really compare the sound with the Dexed plugin, because bammm 4 minute over.
This is ridiculous!
And that's why I keep using dexed, and that's why I will check OPS7 again when the next black friday comes, because half price I could buy many things : )
I have known all fm synth in the market, used almost all, sold some, uninstalled some, currently use Dexed. I don't need fancy modern features found in fm8 or DX7 V, that's why OPS7 is just what I need!
I really like the classic fm sounds, and have many sysex too. Like this Dual layer architecture (however I layer things in Unify, so rather plan to do my layering in that plugin).
But back to the main thing I'd like to say: the 4 minute demo is a wrong decision, this is an obstacle for the user. I can't really compare the sound with the Dexed plugin, because bammm 4 minute over.
This is ridiculous!
And that's why I keep using dexed, and that's why I will check OPS7 again when the next black friday comes, because half price I could buy many things : )
Youtube channel: https://youtube.com/@SoftSynthPortal
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- KVRAF
- 4817 posts since 17 Aug, 2004
So you continue to use Dexed.dune_rave wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:36 pm I'd like to buy this synth, but the 4 minute demo is embarrassing.
I have known all fm synth in the market, used almost all, sold some, uninstalled some, currently use Dexed. I don't need fancy modern features found in fm8 or DX7 V, that's why OPS7 is just what I need!
I really like the classic fm sounds, and have many sysex too. Like this Dual layer architecture (however I layer things in Unify, so rather plan to do my layering in that plugin).
But back to the main thing I'd like to say: the 4 minute demo is a wrong decision, this is an obstacle for the user. I can't really compare the sound with the Dexed plugin, because bammm 4 minute over.
This is ridiculous!
And that's why I keep using dexed, and that's why I will check OPS7 again when the next black friday comes, because half price I could buy many things : )
4 minutes was just fine for me to purchase OPS7. I don't need 1 hour, 7 days or whatever to hear sheer quality of it.
YMMW as it seems
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- KVRAF
- 5201 posts since 6 May, 2002
Plogue is the #1 hardware emulation game in town. Whatever he does is ultra accurate and one of a small handful of responsive developers you can comfortably buy blind. The only thing you want to test is when it comes to Plogue whether the VST runs on your particular system.dune_rave wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:36 pm I'd like to buy this synth, but the 4 minute demo is embarrassing.
I have known all fm synth in the market, used almost all, sold some, uninstalled some, currently use Dexed. I don't need fancy modern features found in fm8 or DX7 V, that's why OPS7 is just what I need!
I really like the classic fm sounds, and have many sysex too. Like this Dual layer architecture (however I layer things in Unify, so rather plan to do my layering in that plugin).
But back to the main thing I'd like to say: the 4 minute demo is a wrong decision, this is an obstacle for the user. I can't really compare the sound with the Dexed plugin, because bammm 4 minute over.
This is ridiculous!
And that's why I keep using dexed, and that's why I will check OPS7 again when the next black friday comes, because half price I could buy many things : )
Intel Core2 Quad CPU + 4 GIG RAM
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- KVRAF
- 2641 posts since 23 Jun, 2006 from Hungary
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- KVRer
- 2 posts since 10 Feb, 2022
As someone who has faced FM editing on the DX7 and crawled away in defeat...I look for any trick to bypass the hard way.
My question is, has anybody here used OPS7 to send Sysex to a DX7, maybe more specifically an early generation DX7, maybe with a grey matter card. Just curious about the workflow, etc? (I know how to move sysex back and forth in general...just looking for specific issues with OPS7)
Realtime patch editing (via software through sysex) would be nice, but apparently my older DX7 does not have that capability.
BTW it takes tons of time to create audio patches, and time is money, so I understand when folks/companies don't want to give everything away for free.
(full disclosure, I use MIDI-OX for just about everything...except patch editing)
My question is, has anybody here used OPS7 to send Sysex to a DX7, maybe more specifically an early generation DX7, maybe with a grey matter card. Just curious about the workflow, etc? (I know how to move sysex back and forth in general...just looking for specific issues with OPS7)
Realtime patch editing (via software through sysex) would be nice, but apparently my older DX7 does not have that capability.
BTW it takes tons of time to create audio patches, and time is money, so I understand when folks/companies don't want to give everything away for free.
(full disclosure, I use MIDI-OX for just about everything...except patch editing)
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- KVRian
- 904 posts since 3 Aug, 2001 from Montreal
I made an unscripted video where I use the SYSEX editor of OPS7 to demonstrate its accuracy with a Model1 - no grey matter/!E card though. We do not have that.youbecha wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:22 pm My question is, has anybody here used OPS7 to send Sysex to a DX7, maybe more specifically an early generation DX7, maybe with a grey matter card. Just curious about the workflow, etc? (I know how to move sysex back and forth in general...just looking for specific issues with OPS7)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDlqXe0M2as
David Viens, Plogue Art et Technologie Inc. Montreal.
https://twitter.com/plgDavid
https://plogue.com
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https://plogue.com
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- KVRAF
- 3231 posts since 18 May, 2003 from Sweden
It would be nice to have an E! card emulation in the OPS7, though! I had one in my DX7 (now gone) and it made a world of difference, I remember.
If it were easy, anybody could do it!