New Hybrid Synth/Sampler/ROMpler from TheSynthFactory

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KVRist
254 posts since 2 Feb, 2005 from UK

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:15 am

Hi, were really proud to announce the imminent release of HoriZEN - our Hybrid Synth/Sampler/ROMpler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjUxg7_VLGw

Over 2 years in development, from a team of industry veterans, head to www.thesynthfactory.com for more info, Day 1 offers and discounts

Current pricing is £129.99, only a few days left for the 30% off - if you have a discount voucher...
Last edited by Lind0n on Fri Nov 05, 2021 6:18 am, edited 2 times in total.
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KVRAF
6752 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:49 am

interesting. i wish you luck with this :)
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KVRAF
10170 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:55 am

That really is a terrible video, and (thankfully) I'm not into "EDM, Trap, Retro or Movies" so it's definitely not for me....

KVRAF
6141 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:57 am

Can you import your own samples?
How much content will it ship with? I am guessing 500 sound sources means samples, or maybe it's something else.
Also can the oscillators be set to free running versus retriggered? I like to be to switch off retrigger for certain sounds.

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KVRAF
16435 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:59 am

Oooooh looks like this might be right up my alley.

Questions: When you say "7 Voice" you don't mean polyphony correct? You mean there are "4 Sampled & 3 Synth Engine OSC" ? What is the actual polyphony?

I assume the countdown clock is to release date? Can you tell us "30% off" what price?

Anyway I signed up so will be keeping an eye on the development of this synth. :tu:
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KVRist

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254 posts since 2 Feb, 2005 from UK

Post Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:33 am

OK so bunch of questions:

"When you say "7 Voice" you don't mean polyphony correct? You mean there are "4 Sampled & 3 Synth Engine OSC" ? What is the actual polyphony?" -- Yep 7 different sound sources, Polyphony is currently set to....256.

"I assume the countdown clock is to release date? " -- Yes.

"Can you tell us "30% off" what price?" - We've decided not to release pricing yet, though I can tell you its not an impulse buy, and its not, not not, a "save up to buy this" situation either. Not sure that helps much really.

"Can you import your own samples?" - No not in this current version, but its on the list of things to add in the future.

"How much content will it ship with?" - the current sample sets are lossless compressed in a custom algo. that currently measures 6.8 GB

" I am guessing 500 sound sources means samples, or maybe it's something else." - Yes that's the sample library , of course you get to combine the 4 sample voices that with 3 subtractive synth voices...

"Also can the oscillators be set to free running versus retriggered?" - you mean the subtractive synth voices? Interesting idea -how much difference does that make to (say) a sine wave ? I cant see it having much effect - or do you mean something else?

EDIT: Or perhaps you mean the LFOs? if so then yes retrigger or free-running, and 1-shot or loop......
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KVRAF
6369 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:32 am

Lind0n wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:33 am
"Also can the oscillators be set to free running versus retriggered?" - you mean the subtractive synth voices? Interesting idea -how much difference does that make to (say) a sine wave ? I cant see it having much effect -
It does have an effect unless the envelopes are not snappy… Each time you trigger a note it will sound a bit different depending on the phase it jumps in…

Will it support MPE? (Sorry that is always my first question regarding a new synth on the block…)

KVRAF
6141 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:10 am

Lind0n wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:33 am
"Also can the oscillators be set to free running versus retriggered?" - you mean the subtractive synth voices? Interesting idea -how much difference does that make to (say) a sine wave ? I cant see it having much effect - or do you mean something else?
Yes, the subtractive synth voices.
Usually you'd leave the osc retrigger on for certain kinds of presets, like if you were making a kick drum sound or some other types. It won't sound the best for other kinds of presets though, especially when using unison and some detuning as you will normally get a phaser effect.

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KVRist

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254 posts since 2 Feb, 2005 from UK

Post Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:54 am

Examigan wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:10 am
Lind0n wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:33 am
"Also can the oscillators be set to free running versus retriggered?" - you mean the subtractive synth voices? Interesting idea -how much difference does that make to (say) a sine wave ? I cant see it having much effect - or do you mean something else?
Yes, the subtractive synth voices.
Usually you'd leave the osc retrigger on for certain kinds of presets, like if you were making a kick drum sound or some other types. It won't sound the best for other kinds of presets though, especially when using unison and some detuning as you will normally get a phaser effect.
OK, well we can certainly look at how we might implement that in future releases...

Oh and MPE - not this release, but already on the road map...
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KVRian
1268 posts since 16 Jan, 2004

Post Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:10 am

What type of copy protection does it use?

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KVRAF
16435 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:13 am

Lind0n wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:33 am
Polyphony is currently set to....256.
Excellent. :tu:
Lind0n wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:33 am
We've decided not to release pricing yet, though I can tell you its not an impulse buy, and its not, not not, a "save up to buy this" situation either. Not sure that helps much really.
Ok fair enough. Based on the specs I'm very interested in this synth. Pricing will of course be a factor in the decision to purchase.

I know it can be difficult to have a proper demo of a synth with such a large content library but will there be at least a partial demo so we can test the features, compatibility, stability etc ? :)
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KVRAF
1699 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from France

Post Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:20 am

Get... get... :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:
This post is supposed to be non-agressive. Now please give me a broad smile. :ud:

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KVRAF
1699 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from France

Post Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:21 am

If the price is not crazy, just right for this kind of synth, that’s an instant buy for me.
New company, a lot of other choices... Please don’t try a $199 base price or I think you’re going to fail. Just watch how DMS Ascension had to rethink its price policy... ;)
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KVRian
1442 posts since 13 Jan, 2014

Post Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:32 am

Speaking over prize: usually I would have been in for the intro if the prize is reasonable but after been burned so often now with 50 % off and more sales coming just a few month after the "special intro" of 30 % off I am out this time. There are only a few devellopers I still trust in this case (like Skippy for example). But definitely not in this case, I am sure this will happen here (again).

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KVRAF
16435 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:50 am

So without even knowing the price and what 30% off that will be you've already decided to pass on a synth because it might be lower priced in the future?

That seems a bit unreasonable to me. :shrug:

The problem with an announcement like this for a product that's a month off from release is that it gives people a lot of time to make up things to complain about.

Let's wait for a demo (I assume there will be one) and wait to see the price and introductory offer before we make any decisions.

Based on what I've seen and heard so far I'm very interested but of course more information is needed to make a final decision.
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