Is Halion 6 any good?

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KVRist
230 posts since 11 Apr, 2019 from UK

Post Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:05 am

It's all in the title really... Is Halion 6 any good?

Got a BlackFriday offer for it at 1/2 price and am tempted...

What do the people think? :?:

KVRAF
6129 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:14 am

Did you get an email about that offer? I was wondering if they would announce something on their website, but there's nothing so far.

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KVRist

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230 posts since 11 Apr, 2019 from UK

Post Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:22 am

Examigan wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:14 am
Did you get an email about that offer? I was wondering if they would announce something on their website, but there's nothing so far.
https://www.bestservice.com/halion_6.html

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KVRAF
3790 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit

Post Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:29 am

Gaz Williams loves it. He and Nick Batt did a fun video about it https://sonicstate.com/amped/2017/07/13 ... -overview/
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KVRAF
2133 posts since 28 Feb, 2015

Post Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:35 am

I have both HALion 6 and Falcon 2, I prefer the latter. I think it's MUCH easier to program. The Falcon I can program without consulting manuals or training videos (to some extent of course), but HALion is impossible to wrap my head around without manuals and training videos.

But I guess it's very subjective. I think the granular engine is better in HALion, while to me the wavetable ones are comparable. HALion lacks FM synthesis, which Falcon has, but Falcon can't sample (I don't think so at least), while HALion can. I haven't got too deep in any of them, but I think Falcon goes deeper, and there are a lot more sampled libraries (like Kontakt) for Falcon than for HALion.
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KVRist

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230 posts since 11 Apr, 2019 from UK

Post Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:44 am

starflakeprj wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:35 am
I have both HALion 6 and Falcon 2, I prefer the latter. I think it's MUCH easier to program. The Falcon I can program without consulting manuals or training videos (to some extent of course), but HALion is impossible to wrap my head around without manuals and training videos.

But I guess it's very subjective. I think the granular engine is better in HALion, while to me the wavetable ones are comparable. HALion lacks FM synthesis, which Falcon has, but Falcon can't sample (I don't think so at least), while HALion can. I haven't got too deep in any of them, but I think Falcon goes deeper, and there are a lot more sampled libraries (like Kontakt) for Falcon than for HALion.
After watching:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p2gMOCla2o

I was thinking the same... I think the only part I like is halotron...

I think this is a hard pass for me... Falcon 2 blows it away by a long way...

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KVRian
543 posts since 3 Jul, 2016

Post Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:16 pm

Get it Or wait for Absolute 5 offer.
Halion 7 should be released 2022 around Feb +/- 1 month
info from Steinberg www - so when you activate it you'll get 7 for free.
It should also be a part of ABS 5 as a free upgrade - imo. ...Will see.. :party:

KVRian
790 posts since 25 Jul, 2009

Post Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:19 pm

I love Halion. But if you're not fairly experienced, it could be a time sink to learn.

IMO, it's a no-brainer for that price though.

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KVRian
543 posts since 3 Jul, 2016

Post Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:38 pm

How many guys out there invest time to learn a vst (4 ex. Falcon) ... nr. of available Falcons for sale here means stg....

A shi**y approach to not being able to demo it is surely to blame too !! F...'em... :evil:
...got iLok ...but cannot even try it...

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KVRAF
2133 posts since 28 Feb, 2015

Post Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:52 pm

Weird statement..
- It also can mean that there are a lot more Falcon licenses sold, more sold licenses could also mean more second hand licenses on sale.
- It can also mean most of the HALion licenses are tied to a HW eLicenser dongle, since this was a requirement earlier. You can't move from HW eLicenser to SW eLicenser.
- And, you see 4 Falcon licenses on sale now, but what if there were 8 HALion licenses on sale at one point a couple of months ago?
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KVRist

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230 posts since 11 Apr, 2019 from UK

Post Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:24 pm

AcrossTheSky wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:16 pm
Get it Or wait for Absolute 5 offer.
Halion 7 should be released 2022 around Feb +/- 1 month
info from Steinberg www - so when you activate it you'll get 7 for free.
It should also be a part of ABS 5 as a free upgrade - imo. ...Will see.. :party:
Hmmm, now that bundle looks nice, lets see what BF deals come around for it...

KVRAF
1573 posts since 30 Jul, 2007

Post Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:04 pm

I like Halion 6, but it’s not fun IMO. It’s super capable, but there is something about how I navigate the different synth engines that doesn’t feel smooth or inspiring, more tedious and tiring. Lots of good factory sounds.

KVRist
289 posts since 12 May, 2004

Post Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:43 pm

Is HALIon any good? Sure it is. Very deep featured and amazingly versatile. Is it a PITA to program? Sure is. Is it worth learning? Sure is… as long as you’re ok with discovering and memorizing where they hide all the tools. And there are a lot of them.

Practically anything you can conceptualize to create and modify sound exists within this program. The problem is the UI design. Unlike a can on your desk, filled with pens, pencils and brushes that you can immediately see and choose, the designers chose to put everything into drawers… and in many cases, drawers within drawers. An example: the lowly LFO. Take a look at this manual page for the LFO:
https://steinberg.help/halion/v6/en/hal ... ion_r.html

This is definitely not synth for a casual preset tweaker… but is the most fun rabbit hole to fall into that I’ve ever used when it comes to making sounds of all varieties from scratch. If you aren’t off-put by the UI design and a steep learning curve, Steinberg’s current 50% off sale is a really good deal for what you get.
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KVRAF
3233 posts since 12 May, 2011 from Everywhere and nowhere, baby

Post Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:17 am

For all the complaints about the ui, there is no mention of the fact that it is modular. You can hide the bits you don't want and show the bits you do. You can save different layouts for different work flows, eg, sound design, patch browsing, etc. It's not perfect, but it helps.
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KVRist
186 posts since 22 Jan, 2007

Post Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:32 am

AcrossTheSky wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:16 pm
Get it Or wait for Absolute 5 offer.
Halion 7 should be released 2022 around Feb +/- 1 month
info from Steinberg www - so when you activate it you'll get 7 for free.
It should also be a part of ABS 5 as a free upgrade - imo. ...Will see.. :party:
It was clear that HALion 7 would come with the new activation system next year. But where did you get the info February +/- 1 month?

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