I concur with almost all of your post x_Bruce. That's one of the better aspects of KvR...it's not all spotty 14-yr-olds, and it's not all smelly old farts - just enough of a mix of both and all of those inbetween.
The spotty ones keep the smelly ones up to date and on their toes, and the smelly ones remind the spotty ones of some facts of life and reality checks through experience.
Us old farts need to remind the spotty ones that musical gear is indeed exceedingly cheap and the world does indeed not owe them a living or in fact anything else. The spotty ones do need to remind us that it is a different world to when we first got into music...PCs are the standard now, and PC stuff is cheap, so therefore should be PC music software.
But as you say...it's not just about music...there's also a paradigm shift in life itself and in social values. I constantly hear at work (I am a nurse by the way) about how hard it is, how staff levels are constantly dropping etc...whereas I see it exactly the opposite...I find modern nursing laughingly easy compared to when I started out (I now have machines to count drips and run infusions for me instead of counting by sight and adjusting any infusion manually...a modern nurse wouldn't even be able to run a drip without a machine anymore - it's quite sad and unskilled), and staffing levels have done nothing but improve steadily over the years. Whereas there are now maybe 3 0r even 4 staff on a night shift for a standard-sized and full ward, not that long ago there was a max of 3, and more regularly only 2...before my time I know for a fact that 1 staff was the standard.
I hear about standard of livings going down, and the struggle for young'uns to survive in the modern world. Wages have done nothing but go up year by year in every single Western state for a long, long time....kids now expect to have a house and mortgage as soon as they leave home! That used to be a pipe dream not so long ago.
Every f**ker has a 4WD idiot truck it seems....dunno how they afford it, but they do....gone are the days when the average citizen could only afford a lawnmower on wheels like a 5th hand mini or Fiat 126 or summat shitty like that when they were young.
Piracy is now done on moral grounds if you believe some of the stupid posts you read...piracy is a fight against the fatcats, it's a way of attracting business, everyone does it, the net is socialism in action so why shouldn't s/w be free just like information....etc etc...etc......
The latest generation has assumed the social idea that the world does in fact owe them everything they desire immediately...and the real sad thing is that it's the previous generation that I come from that is the cause of it....we are the generation that never say no to our kids, we are the generation who clag up every road in every town in the West driving our unexercised fat children to school because it isn't "safe" out there for our precious darlings. Although it beats me why it's so "unsafe" out there...there are no more crimes against children than there ever used to be - just more publicised is all. We are the generation that developed to perfection the social welfare systems that provide everything whilst assuming no responsibilities. We are the generation that enjoyed free education, yet voted in political parties that made it a payable service.
So, although I do agree with you Bruce...(and that type of thought process is a surefire sign that we are now old farts ) let us never forget that we are responsible for bringing up the next generation that we so easily berate. We created the monster.
But you're right....$200 for a s/w Eventide reverb....and all I read is how expensive it is for F***'s sake. If the spotties think that's expensive, then use their crappy "cheap" ones, or go out and give themselves the fright of their lives and look in a shop how much they'll pay for a real Eventide
100 quid is too expensive for impOSCar....yeah right It only costs nearly a thousand to buy a real duophonic one. DUOPHONIC - get that? Only plays TWO notes at any one time.
And I never thought I'd see the day when you might get a 16-year-old posting a "Eventide vs. EMT Plate" thread. f**k me! I've never played with either and never thought I would because I simply don't earn enough to...now I can buy both in s/w.
These are the best days to be making music I can ever think of...we are blessed with the availability and cheapness to use almost any musical tool ever thought of at home and on a short budget.
It's the best - ever!
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It's the best - ever!
2005-02-16T18:36:55+00:00
Maybe it's me, but here are some of my "love to hate" phrases for topics:
"What's the best" - here, I'll answer that right now - nothing is the best. Best is what has the features you need combined with the ability to get them to work in a style you find intuitive
" 'X' vs 'Z' " - hey, I have a great idea, why not get some petroleum and a blow torch and see if we can have fun?
"I need a great, free Trance synth"....continued, that can do phat basses, screaming leads and mesmerizing pads, but I don't want to buy it. So where can I find some SE guy's synth? He's charging for it? Bastard!
I was once a teenager trying to record. Trust me, in 1972 recording was not a cheap hobby. Nor 1982, though Portastudios started cropping up which traded quality for accessability and price. The 90s were mostly a waste unless you waited till '95 or later and went DAW, but it wasn't cheap. Finally the '00s are here, you can buy a 8 track digital Portastudio for $400, you can put a DAW together for the cost of a decent sound card, $200 or so and some cheap to free music software.
But that doesn't make people happy. Now there has to be monster synths that do tremendous things, but heaven help the developer for charging $50. Still, some people create true greatness, Glenn's Crystal synth, UGO's Motion (and others), Rene's Triangle 1 and 2, Synth 1, polyibitblit, GalactiX and hundreds more. All free, all good.
There's even a sub-culture of, "you'll never get me to buy from the evil companies" of which all are evil as they have a profit motive.
While it may be fun to some, I'm starting to sense these discussions often go nowhere other than lame "my setup is better than you setup" whilest both are free setups .
Here's the awful truth. Native Instruments makes a FM synth that uses 3% CPU playing a triad on both my old Athlon XP1700 and current XP2400 processors. So does Pro-53 and B4. Waldorf (may they rise like a Phoenix) made Attack and PPG Wave 2.v bullet proof and also in the 3% CPU club.
G-Media's M-Tron, Oddity and impOSCar have slightly larger loads, 4%, 8% and 6%, still way below most synths today, and lots of people think impOSCar is one of the fattest, satisfying synths on the market, myself included.
Why should these synths be free or undervalued?
Here's the deal. If you hate buying software synths at a 1/10 the street price - don't, but shut up about their not being 100% what the originals are. I don't think anyone could replicate synths from the past, and the ones mentioned are at the pinnicle of development.
Anyone else care to contribute to the debate?
Btw, we can disagree on this, but let's do it in a civil way.
Next up!
x_bruce
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