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scuzzphut · Post by **scuzzphut** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:05 pm

Can you chaps offer some advice?

Granular synthesis is something I have largely (and, it would seem, criminally) overlooked until now.

Can you suggest a freebie granular synth that I could have a play around with to understand the principal and see what can be achieved?

What plugs do the granular fans swear by?

ta!

Hunter · Post by **Hunter** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:08 pm

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:26 pm

wheattableviruschimp?what the f**k are you smoking hunter?

setAI · Post by **setAI** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:44 pm

fractal wheat-
thank yuo

Hunter · Post by **Hunter** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:00 pm

vurt wrote:wheattableviruschimp?what the f**k are you smoking hunter?

ben is working me into the ground, i needed a release for all my pent up silliness, i wish i had something nice to smoke but apparently some idiot in manchester bought all the weed in the uk...

i'm off to buy beer now though...

soma · Post by **soma** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:16 pm

In all seriousness. I think Reaktor has the best grainular synth tools. FOr out of the box fun try crusher x but be warned tht because it is a do anything synth, that it's going to make a lot of crappy sounds before you get something you like or even recognize.
Scuzz you should start here if you missed the granular revival earlier this century.
http://www.granularsynthesis.live.com.au/index2.html

suthnear · Post by **suthnear** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:19 pm

scuzzphut,

Personally, I think reaktor is the best way to get into granular synthesis (there's a shitload of granular ensembles in the UL). Crusherx-live - http://www.kvraudio.com/get/729.html - has a lot of features and is supposed to be the knees of the bees but I wasn't overly impressed with the results I got. YMMV.

Otherwise there are quite a few effects that can give you similar sounding results to granular synthesis (basically, all allow you to create a very small audio buffer and then do funny things to it). I often mess about with these and create waves for loading into kontakt (or sx directly). Oh, yeah, kontakt - it has a terrific granular engine in it, too.

Try:
ktgranulator: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/625.html
destroyfx's transverb can prodcue very granular sounding textures (and is a terrific plug in its own right):
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/662.html
all of ioplong's stuff (but flitchsplifter and sloper particularly) can sound pretty granulated: http://andreas.smartelectronix.com/

audiomulch offers some nice possibilities, too.

soma · Post by **soma** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:21 pm

Oh yeah I forgot! Try symptom meloman.

ModuLR · Post by **ModuLR** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:26 pm

soma wrote:http://www.granularsynthesis.live.com.au/index2.html

Thank you for that link!!

soma · Post by **soma** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:50 pm

ModuLR wrote:
soma wrote:http://www.granularsynthesis.live.com.au/index2.html
Thank you for that link!!

Had problems figuring out your psudo grains Mod last time I tryied. Has anyone sent you .mp3's you can post?

ModuLR · Post by **ModuLR** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:26 pm

no one has sent me anything, but I threw together a demo (don't remeber the link off hand, but it's in the begining part of the pseudograins thread)...

in any case, I'm highly interested in granular type stuff... what I'd really like to know is how to handle zero crossings to prevent unwanted pops and clicks. For whatever reason tho, I'm not into stuff like crusher-X... I like things more primative sounding for whatever reason.

soma · Post by **soma** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:38 pm

ModuLR wrote:no one has sent me anything, but I threw together a demo (don't remeber the link off hand, but it's in the begining part of the pseudograins thread)...

in any case, I'm highly interested in granular type stuff... what I'd really like to know is how to handle zero crossings to prevent unwanted pops and clicks. For whatever reason tho, I'm not into stuff like crusher-X... I like things more primative sounding for whatever reason.

Feel like I've been spamming lately but here is a project I started in Synthedit. As a case study I did a wavelet version of the oscillator. It finds teh zero crossings in real time travels along zero crossing to zero crossing. Sounds like shite though. Really mechanical.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 67#1049067

PS Mod, I like the example of Pseudograins... nice envelopes. The end is cool. Flute loop?

ModuLR · Post by **ModuLR** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:57 pm

soma wrote:Feel like I've been spamming lately but here is a project I started in Synthedit. As a case study I did a wavelet version of the oscillator. It finds teh zero crossings in real time travels along zero crossing to zero crossing. Sounds like shite though. Really mechanical.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 67#1049067

I just need to grab those outside SE files, and then I can take a look at it.

PS Mod, I like the example of Pseudograins... nice envelopes. The end is cool. Flute loop?[/size]

It's more like a plucked orient style string instrument (I have no idea what's it's called tho.. hhehe)... made for decent mangling... but those high frequencies are pretty killer.. I think it needs some kinda filter in there or something to weed those out. As always, learning is work in progress!

McLilith · Post by **McLilith** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:58 pm

Hunter wrote: ben is working me into the ground...

Nah, that's too hard to believe.

Maybe you just need a change of scenery? You could always try to arrange a visit to Camel's "secret skunkworks", nestled in the remote hills of West Virginia.

The high security of this facility doesn't permit the prying eyes of the public, so you'll have to content yourself with this old, 1-meter resolution satellite image:

If you can make it, I'll provide the beer. (At least, for the first day.)

McLilith

CC4 · Post by **CC4** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:01 pm

if you want some standalone granular synths:

Granulab:
http://hem.passagen.se/rasmuse/Granny.htm

Granulator:
http://www.nicolasfournel.com/granulator.htm

Chaosnth:
http://website.lineone.net/~edandalex/chaosynt.htm

Graintable / Granularity