Kiasmos - Bent

How to make that sound...
TwinkleToes
KVRer
25 posts since 21 Mar, 2020

Post Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:56 pm

Hi

Please can you assist me with recreating this sound at 3:50. Not the bass stab, it's the sound that is modulated, like a pitch bend/glide?

Thanks so much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fksEkxoHSo

CHOOS
KVRian
646 posts since 3 Nov, 2010

Post Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:26 am

Didn't try to nail it here because every little tweak affects the sound quite a bit.
It boils down to:
Use about 15-20ms glide.
little bit of resonance going into a bit of distortion. Adjust filter envelope to taste.
It's a wide sound so use unison and set detune to taste.
It's not the filter amount but the cut-off that goes up a bit with the higher notes (keytrack didn't work for me) Use automation for that.

https://vimeo.com/458236691

GL
CHOOSX Remakes on my Youtube Channel

Kwurqx
KVRian
614 posts since 15 Jun, 2017

Post Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:04 pm

Kiasmos is a "side project" of Nils Frahm. Worth checking out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_Frahm

Originally a pianist, his electronic music relies heavily on analog gear. Especially his use of the Roland Juno 60 and the Roland Space Echo.

Also check out Olafur Arnalds and their cooperations.

[EDIT]
Whoops. My bad. Kiasmos is the "side project" of Nils Frahm's musical soulmate Olafur Arnalds, who is also a fan of analog (and electro/acoustic) gear like the Juno 60 and the Space Echo.
[/EDIT]


Example:
Nils Frahm - Says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIwwjy4slI8

Nils Frahm - All Melody/#2 (Live @ Resident Advisor)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW87dBPjHuU
Last edited by Kwurqx on Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.

martinjuenke
KVRAF
4369 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Post Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:13 pm

Kwurqx wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:04 pm
Kiasmos is a "side project" of Nils Frahm.
Sorry, that's not correct:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiasmos

Kwurqx
KVRian
614 posts since 15 Jun, 2017

Post Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:55 pm

martinjuenke wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:13 pm
Kwurqx wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:04 pm
Kiasmos is a "side project" of Nils Frahm.
Sorry, that's not correct:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiasmos
Whoops. My bad. You are so right. It is the "side project" of Nils Frahm's musical soulmate Olafur Arnalds.

Apart from their solo colaborations, Nils Frahm does also collaborate with Kiasmos.

KIASMOS & NILS FRAHM - Says (Improvisation) - Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acSdnfyIVaE

Kiasmos & Nils Frahm live improvisation at Haldern Pop Festival 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04ufehvKBxw

TwinkleToes
KVRer
25 posts since 21 Mar, 2020

Post Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:52 am

Kiasmos is started by Janus Rassmussen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU6pmYPS8E8) and Olafur Arnalds. Nils Frahm has very little to with Kiasmos other than being good mates with Olafur and playing together live maybe once or twice haha. But yes Nils Frahm is awesome too.

TwinkleToes
KVRer
25 posts since 21 Mar, 2020

Post Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:56 am

CHOOS wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:26 am
Didn't try to nail it here because every little tweak affects the sound quite a bit.
It boils down to:
Use about 15-20ms glide.
little bit of resonance going into a bit of distortion. Adjust filter envelope to taste.
It's a wide sound so use unison and set detune to taste.
It's not the filter amount but the cut-off that goes up a bit with the higher notes (keytrack didn't work for me) Use automation for that.

https://vimeo.com/458236691

GL
CHOOS you are a sound design super hero. Amazing! Thanks so much!! I bought Serum but I think I'm going to start using Charlatan to follow your sound design directly and perhaps it can do things Serum can't. Eg. I don't know how to adjust glide in Serum

CHOOS
KVRian
646 posts since 3 Nov, 2010

Post Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:10 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7zS5yELsfw

You can definitely do it in serum. No need for charlatan if you have it (I just don't)

What an awesome track by the way
CHOOSX Remakes on my Youtube Channel

TwinkleToes
KVRer
25 posts since 21 Mar, 2020

Post Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:39 am

CHOOS wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:10 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7zS5yELsfw

You can definitely do it in serum. No need for charlatan if you have it (I just don't)

What an awesome track by the way
Thanks! I'm struggling to get the same bouncy sound as Charlatan. What does the Q and Mod knobs represent in Serum? When you turn the Mod up it makes the sound bounce. What's happening there?

TwinkleToes
KVRer
25 posts since 21 Mar, 2020

Post Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:21 am

PS. CHOOS, why not start posting your tuts to Patreon? 1 dollar per month subscription. A few Patreon subs and you can fund Serum and Diva on a rent to own plan. I rented to own from Splice

CHOOS
KVRian
646 posts since 3 Nov, 2010

Post Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:35 am

Man I wish I'd have enough "followers" or whatever that's called on patreon.
I've only recently started uploading remakes on youtube explaining how I go about making the tracks and then asking for a donation of $5 to share the project but all is shown how to in the video.

Also if someone is broke and they ask me for it i do share it for free.
I say that in the description on the video.

I think a great idea would be for an artist to sell the full track including midi/stems/presets etc and showing the processing of the song for $$$ (I'd gladly pay $10-$25 for some of my favorite tracks to see exactly how it was done)
CHOOSX Remakes on my Youtube Channel

TwinkleToes
KVRer
25 posts since 21 Mar, 2020

Post Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:49 am

CHOOS wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:35 am
Man I wish I'd have enough "followers" or whatever that's called on patreon.
I've only recently started uploading remakes on youtube explaining how I go about making the tracks and then asking for a donation of $5 to share the project but all is shown how to in the video.

Also if someone is broke and they ask me for it i do share it for free.
I say that in the description on the video.

I think a great idea would be for an artist to sell the full track including midi/stems/presets etc and showing the processing of the song for $$$ (I'd gladly pay $10-$25 for some of my favorite tracks to see exactly how it was done)
Yeah that;ll be great to look under the hood of your favourite tracks. Perhaps in the near future a company will offer that.

You can setup a Patreon account in the interim and share the link with people you help here. I'll gladly pay $3 per month. A few users and you can purchase Serum on rent to own and you'll get far more traction on your videos for Youtube and your audience will grow. Start small, you don't need a big community

TwinkleToes
KVRer
25 posts since 21 Mar, 2020

Post Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:51 am

You'll need to share your vids on Serum or Diva to get the keyword traction though

CHOOS
KVRian
646 posts since 3 Nov, 2010

Post Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:53 am

hmmmm
you make a VERY interesting suggestion there.
CHOOSX Remakes on my Youtube Channel

Kwurqx
KVRian
614 posts since 15 Jun, 2017

Post Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:54 am

TwinkleToes wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:52 am
Kiasmos is started by Janus Rassmussen and Olafur Arnalds. Nils Frahm has very little to with Kiasmos other than being good mates with Olafur and playing together live maybe once or twice haha. But yes Nils Frahm is awesome too.
Yeah. I mixed up Kiasmos (Olafur Arnalds) and Nonkeen (Nils Frahm). And confused things further by focusing on their collaboration.

Nonkeen
http://nonkeen.com

Nonkeen- Chasing God Through Palmyra
https://youtu.be/Wbjdzfo7R0c

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