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BDeep · Post by **BDeep** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:58 am

Eeehm, George? With all due respect, but the guy's working on Mac (isn't Phantom Win only?) and he seems to own FM8 already. What use would Phantom be to him?

discoDSP · Post by **discoDSP** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:21 pm

iYM2151 architecture is almost the same as Phantom too… 4 operators and 8 algos.

discoDSP · Post by **discoDSP** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:23 pm

I thought he was Win/Mac. FM8 provides extended architecture and it's not the same as a classic 4 operator FM.

dusted william · Post by **dusted william** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:57 pm

george wrote:Sega Mega Drive and Sega Genesis main sound chip was a Yamaha YM2612 with 6 FM channels, 4 operators each.

Phantom has 4 operators and is perfect for your goal...

will phantom open .opm files?

dw

dusted william · Post by **dusted william** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:58 pm

toitoi wrote:you can ask him http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/profile.p ... le&u=13407
and don't check this thread http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=277864

thanks for the links

I can't seem to import anything into VOTM on my mac. I'll try PC this weekend.

dw

BDeep · Post by **BDeep** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:59 pm

george wrote:I thought he was Win/Mac. FM8 provides extended architecture and it's not the same as a classic 4 operator FM.

if that's the case I stand corrected

SFtheWolf · Post by **SFtheWolf** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:09 pm

toitoi wrote:you can ask him http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/profile.p ... le&u=13407
and don't check this thread http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=277864

I had no idea he/she had an account here. I'll PM them tonight!

I have seen that other thread and should have thought to post a link here since it's relevant. Thanks! I'll probably use those rips for referencing. Maybe I'll load VOPM on my Windows box and my music workstation on another so I can just eyeball it.

george wrote:I thought he was Win/Mac. FM8 provides extended architecture and it's not the same as a classic 4 operator FM.

Isn't FM8's featureset a superset of what a 4 op is capable of? Or is there more to it than that?

toitoi · Post by **toitoi** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:17 pm

Maybe this new Plugwire http://diaphone.blogspot.ru/2010/12/11.html could help you.

discoDSP · Post by **discoDSP** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:03 pm

dusted william wrote:
george wrote:Sega Mega Drive and Sega Genesis main sound chip was a Yamaha YM2612 with 6 FM channels, 4 operators each.

Phantom has 4 operators and is perfect for your goal...
will phantom open .opm files?

dw

SysEx only.

discoDSP · Post by **discoDSP** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:06 pm

toitoi wrote:Maybe this new Plugwire http://diaphone.blogspot.ru/2010/12/11.html could help you.

A bit complex if you only want to design some sounds.

I'm using Crossover with Reaper. Works perfectly, and can load VSTs pretty well. I to set Wine to emulate a 1280x800 virtual desktop because some VST GUIs don't like behaving on normal environment.

discoDSP · Post by **discoDSP** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:09 pm

Ok, enough thread derail

DocAtlas · Post by **DocAtlas** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:33 pm

SFtheWolf wrote:
toitoi wrote:you can ask him http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/profile.p ... le&u=13407
and don't check this thread http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=277864

I had no idea he/she had an account here. I'll PM them tonight!

I have seen that other thread and should have thought to post a link here since it's relevant. Thanks! I'll probably use those rips for referencing. Maybe I'll load VOPM on my Windows box and my music workstation on another so I can just eyeball it.

george wrote:I thought he was Win/Mac. FM8 provides extended architecture and it's not the same as a classic 4 operator FM.
Isn't FM8's featureset a superset of what a 4 op is capable of? Or is there more to it than that?

You can certainly recreate 4-op sounds on a 6-op synth. You would probably have to adjust the envelope settings and operator output levels by ear, but if you have the 4-op instrument handy to do a comparison, it shouldn't be too difficult. It might be time-consuming, though. Yamaha's 4-op synths don't have as many envelope paramaters as the 6-op ones, and FM8 has even more parameters than either of those.

You may want to check out the demo of this: http://fm-alive.com/pages/DXM3.aspx. It now has support for 4-op synths, and can save in DX7 format, so you may be able to use it to convert 4-op to 6-op, then import that into FM8. I'm interested in its ability to save in SY77 format, as well as the standard DX7 format.

toitoi · Post by **toitoi** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:38 pm

Fm formats converter DXconvert/TXconvert 2.0.0
http://dxconvert.martintarenskeen.nl/

Code: Select all

DXconvert can also read files with voicedata from 4-op FM synth
(TX81Z, DX21, FB01, etc.), 2-op FM synths (PSS-480/580/680), and
.opm files from VOPM (a free 4-op FM VST plugin) and converts
these to DX7 voices.

more here: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Ya ... sage/13643

dusted william · Post by **dusted william** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:47 pm

toitoi wrote:Fm formats converter DXconvert/TXconvert 2.0.0
http://dxconvert.martintarenskeen.nl/
Code: Select all
DXconvert can also read files with voicedata from 4-op FM synth
(TX81Z, DX21, FB01, etc.), 2-op FM synths (PSS-480/580/680), and
.opm files from VOPM (a free 4-op FM VST plugin) and converts
these to DX7 voices. 
more here: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Ya ... sage/13643

Yes!

I hope this works

DocAtlas · Post by **DocAtlas** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:44 pm

toitoi wrote:Fm formats converter DXconvert/TXconvert 2.0.0
http://dxconvert.martintarenskeen.nl/
Code: Select all
DXconvert can also read files with voicedata from 4-op FM synth
(TX81Z, DX21, FB01, etc.), 2-op FM synths (PSS-480/580/680), and
.opm files from VOPM (a free 4-op FM VST plugin) and converts
these to DX7 voices. 
more here: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Ya ... sage/13643

This looks promising. Especially if the VOPM conversion works. I'll check it out tonight.

Sega Genesis/Megadrive style instruments in NI's FM8