EOB Sustainer Strat

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jancivil
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15309 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Post Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:15 pm

I'm not pushing the product but it's interesting and I think for a number of us.
Ed O'Brien, Radiohead, had a Fender Strat with a "sustainer driver" pickup thingy manufactured...

https://www.fender.com/products/electri ... 6861a9c391

(thought I was in 'Everything Else')

Jafo
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1819 posts since 20 Dec, 2002 from The Benighted States of Trumpistan

Re: EOB Sustainer Strat

Post Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:39 pm

Hunh... interesting. Neat, actually. Still, I always hated how the sustainer thingy always goes in the neck slot -- I understand why, but I'd really miss the tones Hendrix and Blackmore got (my fave Strat tones). Maybe I'll drive out to my nearest Banjo Depot and see if I can test drive one.
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bayouland
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92 posts since 13 May, 2015

Re: EOB Sustainer Strat

Post Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:12 pm

Isn't that the same thing as the Sustainiac?

http://www.sustainiac.com/st-pro.htm

https://youtu.be/5oAhb_sPQqs

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jancivil
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15309 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Re: EOB Sustainer Strat

Post Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:13 pm

Jafo wrote:Hunh... interesting. Neat, actually. Still, I always hated how the sustainer thingy always goes in the neck slot -- I understand why, but I'd really miss the tones Hendrix and Blackmore got (my fave Strat tones). Maybe I'll drive out to my nearest Banjo Depot and see if I can test drive one.
I know exactly what you mean
one supposes this wouldn't be your only strat, then
donno how much this thing would obviate the classic regular pickup
I leaned towards neck pickup in a big way...

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jancivil
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15309 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Re: EOB Sustainer Strat

Post Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:15 pm

bayouland wrote:Isn't that the same thing as the Sustainiac?

http://www.sustainiac.com/st-pro.htm

https://youtu.be/5oAhb_sPQqs
quite likely, but I think I would want it part of the guitar design rather than slap one in to a regular axe. Me being not very apt at mechanical reasoning.

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seismic1
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9007 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK

Re: EOB Sustainer Strat

Post Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:59 pm

I've been drooling over this all day. The sustainer on here is a Fernandes. Fripp and Hackett use these in their Fernandes/Burny guitars. I've always fancied a sustainer guitar, but didn't fancy destroying my 79 Anniversary Strat to get one. I can't see the missus approving.

tapper mike
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4762 posts since 20 Jan, 2008

Re: EOB Sustainer Strat

Post Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:43 pm

find a used guitar with a sustaniac. Work out all your sustainer issues on that. Getting another guitar never devalued my LP or My Strat

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4548 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden

Re: EOB Sustainer Strat

Post Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:30 pm

I looked a bit for getting something for home use - the feeling of sustained notes and feedback - using a powersoak load which is dead silent. I really missed that part.

DigiTech FreqOut pedal solved that part quite well, I think.
You can choose of having toggle on/off(like effect pedals normally do) or just press for the sustained notes and release foot when done.
You select which kind of harmonics you want, and how strong, and how fast after engage.

Maybe Fernades Sustainer is more alternative for eBow - but if looking for the feedback hang kind, FreqOut is quite good.

But most FreqOut YT review vids are terrible - so don't take any as good example. Find someone that do it the way you intend to use it. Many used it like octaver kind of effect - which is not where it shines at all.

Mr Arkadin
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1503 posts since 11 Mar, 2003

Re: EOB Sustainer Strat

Post Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:10 am

jancivil wrote:
Jafo wrote:Hunh... interesting. Neat, actually. Still, I always hated how the sustainer thingy always goes in the neck slot -- I understand why, but I'd really miss the tones Hendrix and Blackmore got (my fave Strat tones). Maybe I'll drive out to my nearest Banjo Depot and see if I can test drive one.
I know exactly what you mean
one supposes this wouldn't be your only strat, then
donno how much this thing would obviate the classic regular pickup
I leaned towards neck pickup in a big way...
I have two Sustainer guitars. One is a Fernandes and the other a retrofit baritone Tele.

The Fernandes Ravelle looks like a two humbucker Les Paul-type, but the neck is, of course, the Sustainer pick-up. As such, when it is not in sustainer mode it acts as a regular single-coil pick-up. In this instance it sounds as beefy as the humbucker, so fits the guitar's Les Paul-ish qualities well.

On the baritone Tele you can obviously see it's not a regular Tele-style neck pick-up (although being a baritone it has an extra middle Tele-style pick-up), and again in non-sustainer mode it sounds pretty damn good - I was quite surprised as I thought I might not use that position as I assumed the regular pick-up mode would perhaps not be a great pick-up.

I think both sound good as regulat single coils and of course you gain the sustain mode.

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Chris Walton
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2160 posts since 25 Jan, 2007 from the back room, away from his wife's sight (or so he thinks)

Re: EOB Sustainer Strat

Post Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:47 pm

Jafo wrote:Hunh... interesting. Neat, actually. Still, I always hated how the sustainer thingy always goes in the neck slot -- I understand why, but I'd really miss the tones Hendrix and Blackmore got (my fave Strat tones).
SAME.

I barely ever use the middle pickup on my trusty old strat. If it had the sustainer there (is that possible? I don't know how those things work), I'd be more likely to consider it.

EDIT: Though apparently (having just read the rest of the thread) in non-sustain mode they sound like regular pickups. So, maybe it doesn't matter.
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Mister Natural
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Re: EOB Sustainer Strat

Post Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:42 pm

https://www.ebay.com/itm/FERNANDES-FR-6 ... SwGzhaMohC

although - this is the one I want : https://www.ebay.com/itm/Burny-RLG-65S- ... SwTEJaMLci

but can't do it as I really don't need another GTR
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