Dasheesh wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 25, 2018 7:43 pm
Honestly, if some of you "talented" programmers want to make money, design a great audio driver for windows.
What's wrong with ASIO4all? I use it all the time and it never misses a beat (literally). I think I run it at 512 samples.
rod_zero wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:40 pm
Just go with RME and don't buy another interface in two decades, you will question yourself why you didn't get one sooner.
I could say the same about the $250 Edirol interface I bought in 2003. My bandmate still uses it and it works at least as well as any of the half-a-dozen I've bought since. An RME Babyface costs $120 more than my laptop did, I know that in two decades I'd still be cursing myself for wasting so much money on something that didn't make any kind of improvement to anything.
JCJR wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:46 am
But latency has to be unreasonably short before it feels right to me playing thru a softsynth in realtime. IMO 10 Ms feels too sluggish for that. For me needs to be 5 Ms or less before it feels right and even modern fast computers seem to have trouble with that because windows and macos are not "hard realtime operating systems".
Interesting that you'd say that because, many years ago, one of our most esteemed members with a basement full of hardware synths did some testing and discovered that most hard synths have latency in the order of 25ms. To be fair, your audio card's latency is not the only latency in the system but when I run my Zoom at 5ms, the total system latency that my software reports is around 18ms, which means it is faster than most hardware synths. On stage we tend to run at around 8ms, 30ms or so total, and it's fine for both me and my band-mate, who triggers drums from my laptop from his Octapad.
deastman wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:18 am
If you don’t want to pay RME prices, I’ve always found MOTU to be really solid.
Does MOTU stuff even work on PC?
There is zero explanation of how those results were obtained, making it completely meaningless.
tehlord wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:18 pm
My RME had exactly half the latency of anything else I've owned (15 or so audio interfaces in the last decade) for the exact same buffer setting. HALF.
Don't be ridiculous, The buffer is what causes the latency. i.e. 1024 samples at 44.1kHz = 23ms, which is the latency you will get.
Drivers never produced any pops and/or clicks, ever.
Never crashed or failed, ever.
That also describes every interface I've ever used (and I have used quite a few).
dellboy wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:03 am
Could someone knowledgeable explain this whole latency thing.
I have always been happy with 10 ms, and yet people here are saying they need 2 - 4ms.
On a live stage musicians 3 meters apart experience 9 ms of delay.
Whats the truth about latency ?
The truth is that until they could read the numbers, nobody knew it existed. It's is completely in people's heads and safely ignored. As I pointed out above, most hardware synths have latency above 20ms and nobody has ever noticed or complained.
JCJR wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:07 pm
Ya, sound travels about 1 foot per ms or about a meter per 3 ms. However virtually all "real instruments" guitars, winds, strings, drums, except for oddballs like pipe organ, are within a meter of the performer, from 0 to 3 ms delay.
I reckon a lot of electric guitar players would be 3m or more from their stacks on a decent size stage.