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Hermetech Mastering · Post by **Hermetech Mastering** » Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:56 pm

it's just plain wrong, like loads of stuff on the internet. i was bouncing around on doves in the early 90's when it was still called jungle beat techno, which mutated from the breakbeat rave stuff, and then into jungle (years b4 it was termed 'drum n bass'), and it was always 'junglist massive', but what do i know?

david.beholder · Post by **david.beholder** » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:35 pm

Look at the different angle. They might say 'junglist massive' originally, but then lot of people misheard it and thing is in the wild since then.
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Jungle- ... e/11058646
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/4x8w ... 0-years-on
and General Levy is still singing 'jungle is massive' https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... ZeluQiGoXo

P.S. with peace and love to all the ravers in the nation.

samsam · Post by **samsam** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:28 am

Hermetech Mastering wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:56 pm it's just plain wrong, like loads of stuff on the internet. i was bouncing around on doves in the early 90's when it was still called jungle beat techno, which mutated from the breakbeat rave stuff, and then into jungle (years b4 it was termed 'drum n bass'), and it was always 'junglist massive', but what do i know?

"Jungle beat techno"?

Where was any genre called that? Serous question, never heard that before.

Hermetech Mastering · Post by **Hermetech Mastering** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:47 am

UK, south coast and London, circa early 90's. Evolved out of the Hardcore/Breakbeat scene at the time with people like Fabio and Grooverider.

Hermetech Mastering · Post by **Hermetech Mastering** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:50 am

Lots of people say "I should of..." and "I could care less...", doesn't make them right! Wide usage doesn't make it right either. Sorry for pedantry, was an English teacher for 12 years too.

samsam · Post by **samsam** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:54 am

Not interested in your English lessons, I don't need them thanks.

I was listening to the music you describe in the places you describe, broadly speaking. Also worked at the Hac in late 80s. Never ever heard that term though.

samsam · Post by **samsam** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:11 am

Possibly I was too dazed and confused to actually notice...

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:15 am

samsam wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:28 am
Hermetech Mastering wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:56 pm it's just plain wrong, like loads of stuff on the internet. i was bouncing around on doves in the early 90's when it was still called jungle beat techno, which mutated from the breakbeat rave stuff, and then into jungle (years b4 it was termed 'drum n bass'), and it was always 'junglist massive', but what do i know?
"Jungle beat techno"?

Where was any genre called that? Serous question, never heard that before.

no, it was called jungle, then d+b (tho not exactly the same)

i was there too

samsam · Post by **samsam** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:34 am

AnX wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:15 am
samsam wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:28 am
Hermetech Mastering wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:56 pm it's just plain wrong, like loads of stuff on the internet. i was bouncing around on doves in the early 90's when it was still called jungle beat techno, which mutated from the breakbeat rave stuff, and then into jungle (years b4 it was termed 'drum n bass'), and it was always 'junglist massive', but what do i know?
"Jungle beat techno"?

Where was any genre called that? Serous question, never heard that before.
no, it was called jungle, then d+b (tho not exactly the same)

i was there too

Old ravers club

Was wondering whether I'd missed a year or two in music without realising....

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:06 am

quick possible, the drugs were good back then.

monomaker · Post by **monomaker** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:52 am

I was there too. As I remember it :

In terms of etymology, I remember it being
hardcore (1991)
-> (hardcore) jungle techno (late 1991 because of Top Buzz, then MC Scratchmaster Techno)
-> hardcore junglism (1992 - because of The Moog track, Rebel MC then Manix/Marc Mac)
-> jungle (1993)
-> d&b (1993-94 because not all jungle had reggae influence, Hype's comps and Incredible was a cringer).

I'd never heard of "Jungle beat techno", but in defence of this claim a lot of odd terms came and went on a monthly basis in 92, often because some MC had spent a night shouting something and 10,000 off their swede ravers suddenly decided that was a thing.

The Incredible lyrics are clearly "junglist massive", the "jungle is massive" thing started about 2/3 years later with the joke "Why did the lion get lost?". Since then the punchline has been re-appropriated many times over, including the Ministry comp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S5YGijfm5w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46RThgGQDag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpoIV2eIUU4

samsam · Post by **samsam** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:59 am

Yeah you know way more than me, moved away from hardcore and that lineage and stuck more to house and hip hop, though did appreciate mainstream like Goldie, R Size and modern dnb like Alix Perez and Hospital

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:05 pm

Hate top break (beat) up the dance music debate, but there is a new video

https://youtu.be/7XFW80upgKU

Touchscreen Mixer?

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:42 pm

they're buying windows?

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:35 pm

https://youtu.be/9iWdTJXOK4E

Maybe?

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