Why you left VSTs?

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cptgone
KVRAF
6144 posts since 1 Aug, 2003

Post Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:22 pm

Cause... I couldn't find a VST that comes close. There's something about hard ware... flutes, bassoons, digeridoos...
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Stokely
KVRist
148 posts since 11 May, 2010

Re: Why you left VSTs?

Post Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:38 pm

I didn't :)

For my hobbyist needs, I'll never go back. I learned studio engineering in the late 80s with rooms full of midi gear, rack fx, big consoles and tape (analog and digital). Setting up for a song was a major PITA when you have a lot of synths and fx. Now I can say "File>Open" and boom!

Live I still use hardware though. I like the simplicity. I've had a couple keyboards have issues over the years, but I have no doubt that a laptop or ipad rig would have had more.

If I end up getting a Prophet or other analog synth for my live rig, I could end up using it in recordings possibly. It would have to sound better than Repro and be as easy to program (controllers, sweeps etc) for me to do so. Don't get me wrong, I love hardware and have owned my share in almost 40 years of playing, but vst convenience just is king for me!

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JoseC.
KVRian
522 posts since 14 Nov, 2005 from León, Spain

Re: Why you left VSTs?

Post Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:11 am

AdvancedFollower wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:13 am
It's not just the mouse, people underestimate ergonomics in general. For the longest time I kept a MIDI keyboard on a stand to the right of my desk, so I was always half-bent to the right, flailing with my right arm to try to play notes on the keyboard, while using the mouse with my left hand (I'm right-handed but somewhat ambidextrous) to tweak the plug-ins and simultaneously trying to see the computer monitor over my left shoulder.

Others plop a giant MIDI keyboard on their desk so they have to reach over it to use the mouse and keyboard and have to push the computer monitor way back so they can barely see some of the smaller plugin GUIs.

Now I have a compact 25-key keyboard immediately to the left of the computer keyboard so I can easily trigger notes while tweaking soft-synths with the mouse. I also put the computer monitor on a VESA-mount swivel arm so I can adjust it on the fly.
I use a Kawai K5000S synth as controller, and it sits on my desk with the mouse and computer keyboard in front of it, not behind. I have the desk set pretty low, so it is just matter of raising the chair a bit and I have a good keys playing position, (not that I can play keys much, but anyway), or setting it a bit lower for more confortable computer work.
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rod_zero
KVRAF
3075 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO

Re: Why you left VSTs?

Post Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:39 pm

AdvancedFollower wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:13 am
It's not just the mouse, people underestimate ergonomics in general. For the longest time I kept a MIDI keyboard on a stand to the right of my desk, so I was always half-bent to the right, flailing with my right arm to try to play notes on the keyboard, while using the mouse with my left hand (I'm right-handed but somewhat ambidextrous) to tweak the plug-ins and simultaneously trying to see the computer monitor over my left shoulder.

Others plop a giant MIDI keyboard on their desk so they have to reach over it to use the mouse and keyboard and have to push the computer monitor way back so they can barely see some of the smaller plugin GUIs.

Now I have a compact 25-key keyboard immediately to the left of the computer keyboard so I can easily trigger notes while tweaking soft-synths with the mouse. I also put the computer monitor on a VESA-mount swivel arm so I can adjust it on the fly.
Agree, but can be fixes if you get the right stuff, a monitor arm helps a lot to get the right height, a custom desk helps to have space for computer keyboard and leyboard controller, add space for controllers.
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pekbro
KVRAF
2938 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui

Re: Why you left VSTs?

Post Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:14 pm

It's pretty easy to add a hide away keyboard tray to most any desk. A $7 sliding drawer bracket and a piece of wood. Took me all of 15 mins to build and install mine.

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TheMaestro
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327 posts since 26 Jan, 2020

Re: Why you left VSTs?

Post Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:07 am

pekbro wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:14 pm
It's pretty easy to add a hide away keyboard tray to most any desk. A $7 sliding drawer bracket and a piece of wood. Took me all of 15 mins to build and install mine.
Not everyone can sport wood like that.
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CapnLockheed
KVRAF
2350 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Central NY

Re: Why you left VSTs?

Post Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:06 pm

Because I lost my taste for apples and decided to re-embrace oranges.
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tcrano
KVRer
27 posts since 8 Apr, 2020

Re: Why you left VSTs?

Post Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:43 am

Because I had to go to the toilet :P

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Moe Shinola
KVRAF
1523 posts since 11 Nov, 2004 from Kansas City, MO

Re: Why you left VSTs?

Post Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:04 pm

I didn't. I just wanted that whole tactile experience everyone talks about. Still looking for it, one piece of gear at a time.
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Dencheg
KVRist
142 posts since 10 Oct, 2018

Re: Why you left VSTs?

Post Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:08 am

tcrano wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:43 am
Because I had to go to the toilet :P
I assume you've already returned back to your VSTs? :)

CapnLockheed
KVRAF
2350 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Central NY

Re: Why you left VSTs?

Post Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:42 pm

Because they cheated on me.
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tcrano
KVRer
27 posts since 8 Apr, 2020

Re: Why you left VSTs?

Post Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:55 pm

Dencheg wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:08 am
tcrano wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:43 am
Because I had to go to the toilet :P
I assume you've already returned back to your VSTs? :)
I did. But I think I was a little bit too fast.

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