ATH m50x vs m40x headphones for mixing/composing
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 925 posts since 27 Sep, 2010
I’ve had the ATH m50x headphones for years and only recently discovered that many people believe the m40x variant to be flatter / more neutral than the m50x. Should I really be using the m40x?
The question of “what should I replace the m50x with” will come later though.
For comparison’s sake, I do have a Sennheiser 280 HD Pro. How does that compare with the m40x? If it’s better, I can just stop using the m50x for music.
Thanks!
The question of “what should I replace the m50x with” will come later though.
For comparison’s sake, I do have a Sennheiser 280 HD Pro. How does that compare with the m40x? If it’s better, I can just stop using the m50x for music.
Thanks!
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- KVRist
- 279 posts since 14 Oct, 2018
- KVRist
- 72 posts since 6 Sep, 2016
Go ATH m50x if you are used to them you know how they sound and that is the most important, a super secret tip to get a plugin from toneboosters "Morphit" load the plug on your master channel it has all the headphones you can buy, just click which headset you have and it evens out perfectly best I've gotten.
- KVRAF
- 13136 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica
I don't use headphones as my primary mix source.. Maybe after finding a mix on my speakers I may listen on headphones just 'to make sure'.
That said I have m50's in my two studio setups....
I recently bought an m40 to use on planes when I am traveling and for sure, maybe it is indeed flatter? I am not sure, bu tI definitely prefer the bottom end on the m50's, which I use for tracking, and love.
rsp
That said I have m50's in my two studio setups....
I recently bought an m40 to use on planes when I am traveling and for sure, maybe it is indeed flatter? I am not sure, bu tI definitely prefer the bottom end on the m50's, which I use for tracking, and love.
rsp
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- KVRist
- 145 posts since 7 Aug, 2011
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- KVRAF
- 4751 posts since 22 Nov, 2012
most cans are tuned towards highs, or lows. the reason many don't hit the mids is because you miss the extreme frequencies of today's music. if you tune for the mids, you have to "artificially" introduce frequencies at the highs and lows. usually, this is by eq, which was never meant to be a booster, but developed into that with specialized eq's. Honestly, if you go ATH, do yourself a favor and check out LYX first. the cheap Korean version. The Pads alone are worth 50. super squish. https://www.lyxpro.com/collections/head ... 7098317957
- KVRAF
- 2338 posts since 28 Feb, 2015
m50x frequency response is 15-28.000 Hz
m40x frequency response is 15-24.000 Hz
How do you mean the 50's are tuned for bass and 40's are a brighter sound?
the m50x have a pretty flat frequency curve. Not as my AKG K 701, but still much flatter than my Beats', my B&W's or my other "consumer" headphones.
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- KVRAF
- 4751 posts since 22 Nov, 2012
starflakeprj wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:14 pmz
How do you mean the 50's are tuned for bass and 40's are a brighter sound?
it doesn't matter what they can hit, if they are not tuned to hit it. EVERY cans have flaws. ALL. What i mean is the 50's are boomy as f**k, and that is a well known and documented complaint. it's not new.
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- KVRAF
- 4751 posts since 22 Nov, 2012
You have to have really good quality components to hit a wider spectrum, with good design. It's not exactly easy, It's pricey. You can mix fine with 50$ cans if you get a good set, and use your tools tho (that's where software comes in handy). 50$ cans are useful.
- KVRAF
- 2338 posts since 28 Feb, 2015
Ok, I haven't listened to the m40x, but I have the m50x, and I don't agree they are being "boomy". They do have a "lower frequency" thing going on compared to my AKG's, but I wouldn't call them boomy. However, I wouldn't use them for mixing, but for referencing.Dasheesh wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:20 pmstarflakeprj wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:14 pmz
How do you mean the 50's are tuned for bass and 40's are a brighter sound?
it doesn't matter what they can hit, if they are not tuned to hit it. EVERY cans have flaws. ALL. What i mean is the 50's are boomy as f**k, and that is a well known and documented complaint. it's not new.
I did a search in my preferred search engine, and ended up with hits on customer reviews mentioning "too much bass" though. I just don't think this myself.
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- KVRAF
- 4751 posts since 22 Nov, 2012
i took a total flyer on these one time. super cheap build, that comes in handy when wearing for long periods. cheap plastic is light weight. I would put them on the same sound shelf as creatives (imo). https://edifier-online.com/us/en/headph ... headphones
THEY ARE NOT MADE FOR LOUD VOLUMES AND ISH.
THEY ARE NOT MADE FOR LOUD VOLUMES AND ISH.
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- KVRAF
- 3229 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
The hinges break easily if you accidentally twist them the wrong way, so durability is questionable. ATH M50's are fine for producing with, but bass frequency within your DAW needs to be about 3dB higher to be reflected on your speakers.
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- 1770 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
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