Geist 3 when?

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KVRist
43 posts since 19 Jul, 2004

Post Tue May 04, 2021 5:06 am

What are other ppl using for Geist-like beat making (that might be more up to date). For the sound component, I am loving XLN XO, but it is a different beast than Geist obviously (if you could mix the "AI" discovery of XLN with a beefed up/streamlined/bug-free version of Geist I would love to find such a beast)

KVRAF
1818 posts since 11 Aug, 2012 from omfr morf form romf frmo

Post Fri May 07, 2021 12:33 am

I make beats in-DAW so I use XO for searching/some shaping/sometimes sequencing then drag the kit into Geist and MIDI into the DAW. Geist is really good for sequencing, especially aleatoric, but I tend to bring it in-DAW as MIDI for further manipulation. I'm using Windows and Geist is 64-bit so I imagine I can use it for a long time from now.

They found a stable home for BFD, I have no idea who would be a good steward for Geist unless one of the original devs leaves ROLI and somehow buys it back from them.

There really is nothing else like Geist. Perhaps particular aspects of it. For drum rack, Battery would do it for me, and there's Nerve and several others. For sequencing, if XLN really fleshed out XO's sequencer into its own product. I can sort of force Thesys to do drum hit sequencing but it's awkward as it's intended for melodic sequencing, however it's very powerful. For pattern and song building, the only real alternative is MPC Beats but it's a completely different workflow, though it encapsulates much of the fundamental features. It's free so perhaps give it a try.

KVRAF
4909 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Post Fri May 07, 2021 9:02 am

IMO FXpansion is more or less abandoned. Bought by ROLI, stripped off coding talent in favour of Equator and due to be sold. Look Exponential Audio...

KVRAF
1681 posts since 28 Sep, 2012

Post Fri May 07, 2021 9:33 am

martinjuenke wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 9:02 am
IMO FXpansion is more or less abandoned. Bought by ROLI, stripped off coding talent in favour of Equator and due to be sold. Look Exponential Audio...
Yet their products are still mostly sold at a premium.

KVRAF
4909 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Post Fri May 07, 2021 9:45 am

perpetual3 wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 9:33 am
martinjuenke wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 9:02 am
IMO FXpansion is more or less abandoned. Bought by ROLI, stripped off coding talent in favour of Equator and due to be sold. Look Exponential Audio...
Yet their products are still mostly sold at a premium.
Not in the second hand market...

KVRAF
4909 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Post Fri May 07, 2021 9:46 am

perpetual3 wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 9:33 am
martinjuenke wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 9:02 am
IMO FXpansion is more or less abandoned. Bought by ROLI, stripped off coding talent in favour of Equator and due to be sold. Look Exponential Audio...
Yet their products are still mostly sold at a premium.
Offered? Yes.
Sold? Don't know...

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