Helix resaizable GUI !!

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sfp
KVRer
19 posts since 27 May, 2005

Post Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:19 am

i like too much the sound of helix but i know that the gui are so litlle to me .

why don't do a resaizable GUI like others (example "u-he ZEBRA" ) does?


this is dificult to implement or what appens ?


i like to touch every parameter of HELIX on my 30" touch screen tactil ,monitor :shock:

JonasNorberg
KVRian
699 posts since 16 Dec, 2005 from SF, CA, USA

Post Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:35 am

sfp wrote:i like too much the sound of helix but i know that the gui are so litlle to me .

why don't do a resaizable GUI like others (example "u-he ZEBRA" ) does?


this is dificult to implement or what appens ?


i like to touch every parameter of HELIX on my 30" touch screen tactil ,monitor :shock:
I'm afraid this won't happen anytime soon :(

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VSTJuNkiE
KVRAF
2487 posts since 18 Jun, 2008 from "nunya"....

Post Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:53 pm

JonasNorberg wrote:I'm afraid this won't happen anytime soon :(
What about making 2 or 3 dif sized gui's instead?
where has all teh freeware gone ':-o'

jazztard
Banned
159 posts since 19 Oct, 2010

Post Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:22 pm

The GUI is made by another person. This involves manually mapping every parameter to a screen knob/slider/etc. An enormous task for a complex synth. This will have to be done all over again for each new size of the GUI.

This obviously would involve $$$ changing hands. If sales figures are not good -speculation!- (and one possible reason could be the GUI -speculation!-), then there's probably no budget for new GUIs -speculation again!-.

But it will be nice to know if any updates are down the pipeline. No news for a long time...

JonasNorberg
KVRian
699 posts since 16 Dec, 2005 from SF, CA, USA

Post Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:44 pm

Just FYI... If you're on a mac, you can easily see the GUI in the "bundle"-file. It's one .PSD-file, all graphics are in there... if you're adventurous, try resizing it :)

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Michael L
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2478 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from the End of the World as we Knowit

Re: Helix resaizable GUI !!

Post Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:44 pm

I went on the Adventure but discovered a new Challenge. I resized the .psd document 200% and I replaced the Helix skin. However, the VST editor window in two different DAWs remained the same size, so I can now only see a fraction of the larger GUI through the window. I contacted the DAW developer who said the VST defines the size of its editor window. Only enlarging the Helix skin is not enough, I also need the command to change the window size.

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wagtunes
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14355 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: Helix resaizable GUI !!

Post Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:27 pm

I can't even begin to tell you how sad I am right now.

I went to your site, listened to the amazing demos, downloaded and installed this, only to find that I can't see a darn thing other than to change the presets. Forget trying to program this thing. It is virtually impossible with the small size.

I was all ready to take out my wallet and purchase but I can't see doing that just to use presets.

Shame. This is an amazing sounding synth but until the GUI is made larger (obviously that's never going to happen) I'll be spending my money elsewhere.

Yes, a very sad day for me.

dwozzle
KVRian
1045 posts since 28 Dec, 2012 from Boston area

Re: Helix resaizable GUI !!

Post Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:39 pm

Michael L wrote:I went on the Adventure but discovered a new Challenge. I resized the .psd document 200% and I replaced the Helix skin. However, the VST editor window in two different DAWs remained the same size, so I can now only see a fraction of the larger GUI through the window. I contacted the DAW developer who said the VST defines the size of its editor window. Only enlarging the Helix skin is not enough, I also need the command to change the window size.
Did he tell you what it would take to do that, or if he might be persuaded to do it himself? If you've done the UI work and all that's needed is to change the width and height numbers in the code, that seems doable from his end without a lot of thrash.

Would definitely make it more salable, pretty likely enough to pay him back for the time it took to do it.

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Michael L
KVRAF
2478 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from the End of the World as we Knowit

Re: Helix resaizable GUI !!

Post Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:35 pm

Agreed. I am happy to work with him at no cost (& did help test his new OSX installer). However, as you can see he did not reply to my post.

dwozzle
KVRian
1045 posts since 28 Dec, 2012 from Boston area

Re: Helix resaizable GUI !!

Post Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:40 pm

It's a shame, I'm sure he's moved on to other things.

FWIW, I'm not lusting quite so much after Helix having played with Melda's MPowerSynth. It's not the same at all, but it has very imaginative oscillators that can do some of the sorts of waveform combining that Helix does. I've never seen a waveform-level step sequencer before, for example, and there's lots more. Very cool, many interesting sounds in there, and that's just the oscs. GUI isn't my favorite, though there's now a commercial skin for it that I like better than the factory ones, but the synth itself it pretty wild. Especially the oscillators. Did I say that already?

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Michael L
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2478 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from the End of the World as we Knowit

Re: Helix resaizable GUI !!

Post Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:33 pm

There's an Instrument Forum thread now on Wave Sequencing VSTs with other options (including the new Wusikstation8).

dwozzle
KVRian
1045 posts since 28 Dec, 2012 from Boston area

Re: Helix resaizable GUI !!

Post Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:41 pm

Hmmm, if by wave sequencing you mean what I know as wavetable scanning, that's not what I mean MPowerSynth does. It has a step sequencer for the waveform itself, lets you set levels for different time slices of an individual waveform cycle. You can set smoothing on those transitions, and combine that waveform generation method with others in a lot of ways.

Again, it's not Helix, but there are some similarities in that sense, and it has way more capabilities than that. And it's current.

Apostate
KVRian
1206 posts since 16 Sep, 2006

Re: Helix resaizable GUI !!

Post Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:45 pm

I haven't checked out the Melda yet, but buying Z3ta kind of soured my love on Helix. It just seemed to do everything Helix did, but better. That said, I think it sucks that the developer is incognito, I think with some regular upgrades Helix would have been a contenda. It had great sound and was pretty darn fun to program, at least for me!
Ha ha suck it!

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mcc>
KVRist
75 posts since 7 Jan, 2006 from san diego, ca

Re: Helix resaizable GUI !!

Post Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:54 pm

i personally don't understand all this crying about the size of the GUI. helix is as large as most any virtual-synth you find...so sure it's parameter-dials might be a bit small, but for any one you select, you get the exploded-slider in the middle which you can dial-in more accurately than almost any synth out there. i'm glad it doesn't take up my entire screen...either of them.
i used to always push the envelope...until someone showed me a letter-opener.
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