Visual tool for smoothly drawing stereo wideness curve across frequency spectrum? (Like MonoFilter)
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 452 posts since 21 Jul, 2018
For years, I've found it odd that stereo wideness tools never seem to have the right interface. Basically, I just want to use visual bezier tools to draw a smooth curve across the frequency spectrum so, for instance, it's at 0% width (mono) below 125 hz or so, then has a smooth curve to ramp up to 100% (full normal stereo) at 500hz or so, but with a bit of a bulge there (over 100% / width enhanced) similar to the way a resonant filter oversteps at it's resonant frequency before returning to flat.
It's such a simple concept, and incredibly useful, but I've given up looking for it a few times.
The closest thing I've found is MonoFilter which is visual, but only allows points for zero and full width between which it draws a straight line, and no option to overcorrect (bulge).
I understand that something functionally similar can be achieved with, for instance, a series of M/S EQ's, but that approach rapidly becomes a nested kludge of counter-intuitive black magic, so wondering if perhaps I have overlooked something along these lines in the Melda tooldbox, or if what the current closest approximation would be.
Wondering for audio processing in general (I always have some such costom tool on my music buss), but also for tweaking the frequency dependent width of individual synth sounds within MSF
It's such a simple concept, and incredibly useful, but I've given up looking for it a few times.
The closest thing I've found is MonoFilter which is visual, but only allows points for zero and full width between which it draws a straight line, and no option to overcorrect (bulge).
I understand that something functionally similar can be achieved with, for instance, a series of M/S EQ's, but that approach rapidly becomes a nested kludge of counter-intuitive black magic, so wondering if perhaps I have overlooked something along these lines in the Melda tooldbox, or if what the current closest approximation would be.
Wondering for audio processing in general (I always have some such costom tool on my music buss), but also for tweaking the frequency dependent width of individual synth sounds within MSF
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- KVRian
- 753 posts since 2 Aug, 2013
MXXX set to mid-side mode, insert on FreeformEQ on the sides. You can freehand draw your filter shapes or use bezier curves.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 452 posts since 21 Jul, 2018
SeeingInMidi wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:47 am MXXX set to mid-side mode, insert on FreeformEQ on the sides. You can freehand draw your filter shapes or use bezier curves.
Ahh... OK.
Makes sense. I was looking for a stereo width tool with visual tools as opposed to going the EQ route, but I suppose going the EQ route WITH the ability to draw a spectrum curve is just different path to the same destination.
All roads lead to MXXX.
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- KVRAF
- 2627 posts since 10 Jan, 2005
Take a look at the free Voxengo CorreloMeter: it shows the stereo correlation index per frequency band, very useful to check for example if (and where) your bass is mono or not.
- Mario
- Mario
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- KVRAF
- 2627 posts since 10 Jan, 2005
Also, if you intend to just make some part of the spectrum of your sounds mono, take an EQ that can work in M/S (if I remember well the free Melda EQ does) and notch or reject in "side" mode the frequency bands you don't want to have in stereo.
I hope that helps,
Mario
I hope that helps,
Mario
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- KVRAF
- 14019 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Well, technically if you use MFreeformEqualizer in channel mode "S", you can do that I think. I was thinking a few times about a few more spectral tools, that would do things like this, but no dev time left...