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KVRAF
13959 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Post Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:00 am

**WARNING** - Avoid this thread if you have no tolerance for bad music and vocals that sound like cats crying in the night. Otherwise, you have no one to blame for your suffering but you

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These Songs Have So Far Been Posted Throughout This Thread
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9 On A Cloud
A Little At A Time
After My Sins Are Gone
All For Christmas
All The Same
Amp It Up
Another Notch On My Gun
Another Port In The Storm
Assimilation
Bananas Crackers And Nuts
Band Camp At Bingo Bob's
Berlin Is Burning
Blame It On The DJ
Bless Us All Everyone
Blood On The Rocks
Boogie On Down
Botany Bay
Bring On The Klingon
Brunton's Last Wish
Carbon Dating
Caught In The Crossfire
Chain Of Lies
Chill In The Air
Chimera
Climbing Statues
Corkscrew Angel
Cut Me To The Quick
Dancing With Davy Jones
Dangerous Curves
Dare To Be Square
Dark Hearted Devil
Dark Room
Deadbolt
Destiny Rides Again
Dirty Little Mind
Dirty Streets
Divas
Don't Act So Cool
Dragons And Dreams
Dran Draggore The Red Dragon
Drifting Aimlessly
Ear Wurm Turn
East Of Eden
Eat Bugs
Electro Retro
Empty Promises
Empty Spaces
Evil Twin
Eye Of The Beholder
False Faces
Flash Drive
For My Tears Alone
Frodo And The Lost Frog
Frozen Stiff
Frustration
Frying Pan Into The Fire
Funk Off
Gas Man
Gates Of Eternity
Gates Of Eternity 2
Get In The Groove
Give It To Me Straight
Give Me The Night
Glitch 1
Glitch 2
Glitch 3
Glitch 4
Glitch 5
Glitch 6
Glitch 7
Glitch 8
Glitch 9
Glitch 10
Global Warming
Go Away
God Come Save Me Now
Gone Are The Days
Half Life Science
Hang Me At Noon
Healing Hands
Heart Attack
Hero Of The Stupid
Hide And Seek
If I could Go Back (And Do It All Over Again)
If We Had Forever
In The Arms Of My Lord
In The End
Inside The Castle
Isotomic
It's A Love Thing
Jay's Christmas
Joey
Just The Three Of Us
Kick In The Head
Kidding Me
Kiss Of Death
Let Me Go
Let's Make It
Life (What Do You Want)
Little Bird
Logical
Lords Of The Bones
Lost Horizon
Lost In The Ages Of Time
Mad March
Magnetic Personality
Mannequin
Meditation Madness
Modern Talking
Moist And Chewy
Molecules Of Space
Molecules Of Time
More Than This
Musgrave Manor
My Forever Valentine
My Girlfriend's Rack
Mystic Spaces
No Signal
Nobody Knows My Blues
Not My Jazz
(Nothing But) Seasons
Nuclear Fallout
Obligations
Off To The Races
Old Song
On Tenth Avenue
On The Edge Of A Bad Life
On The Run
Once Upon A Time
Ordinary World
Out Like A Light
Play With Me
Plug Me In
Post Traumatic Stress
Pranksters And Jokers
Reaching For The Stars
Remus And Romulus
Resisting The Temptation
Revolving Door
Return To Darkmoor
Rubber Water
Separate Ways
Silicon Teen
Sins And Sanctuary
Sins Of The Father
Slow Train
Snow On The Roof
So Very Long Ago
Something Meaningful
Somewhere Down The Road
S P Uh Nahzh
Spot In The Shade
Stop The Music
Sudden Intruder
Sugar Pop
Summer Love
Sun Shower
Take Me To The Stars
Talisman Shuffle
Temperature's Rising
Temple Of Lost Souls
Ten Years Later
That Does Not Compute
The Best Thing
The Box
The Buck Stops Here
The Clock On The Wall
The Cornfield
The Cowardly Lion
The Dogs Of Funk
The Door Swings Both Ways
The Drain
The End Times
The Eyes Of A Stranger
The Fall Of Spring
The Gates Of Darkmoor
The Girl With The Curl
The History Of God
The Joke Is On You
The Joy Of Christmas
The Last Pop Song
The Man I Love
The Medusa
The Midas Touch
The Music Box
The Needle
The Pawn Shop
The Old Gal From The Sea
The Reflecting Pool
The Scarecrow
The Take Out
The Three Towers
The Tin Man
The Walls Came Down
The Wicked Witch
The World's Smallest Violin
The Wyzyrd Of Trance
There's No Place Like Home
Thorn In The Side Of The Lord
Three Minutes To The End
Til Tuesday Comes
Time Is Time
Tin And Bag
Unsettling Waves
V Pop
Visions Of Demons
Walkin' Through A Hurricane
Walking On Thin Ice
Wanting To Be Free Again
Weather Report
What The Heart Doesn't Know
When In Rome
When The World Ends
Where Do We Go From Here
Where Has My Prince Gone
Would You Hip Hop With Me
Writing On The Wall
Xilent
Yellow Brick Road
You Can't Dance (And It's Too Wet To Plow)
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From my CD "Divas"

The Clock On The Wall

Two A M right now
As I'm staring into space
Can't escape my dreams
Better nightmares in their place
But all the dreams I have
Just don't matter much at all
When all I have is the clock on the wall

No one seems to care
For the dreamers in this world
Life it just goes on
There's no place for wishful girls
And all the dreams I have
Just don't matter much at all
When all I have is the clock on the wall

If only my dreams could meet reality
Oh what a wonderful place this world would be

But I'll sleep tonight
And wake up tomorrow morn
In between the dreams
Welcome death after they're born
Cause all the dreams I have
Just don't matter much at all
Even less than the clock on the wall

Repeat Bridge

Repeat Last Verse

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V0RT3X
KVRAF
7248 posts since 4 Jul, 2012 from Canada

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Post Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:48 pm

This track isn't bad, It makes me think of a Robot singing in some sort of futuristic world which is kind of cool.

Kind of reminds me of the music from Portal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI

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nineofkings
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1763 posts since 9 Apr, 2011

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Post Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:28 pm

Nice Elton John sorta ballad vibe thing. I know you're sick of hearing this, but honestly, with the time it takes to get a vocaloid track down, you could easily tune and process an out of tune vocal. it would improve this style of music a thousand times. Do you have ReaTune or Waves Tune or some sort of tuning plugin with a manual option?

And of course there's the John Lennon option - don't like the sound of your voice? Double track it.

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jancivil
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16105 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

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Post Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:44 pm

I really go for the stupid tom tom fill which starts the drum track off. I love that shit.

No, really, this was perversity on purpose, was it not? I have no judgement on the song itself, I mean it is exactly what it's supposed to be, what?
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Bodhisan
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474 posts since 7 Aug, 2015 from H2O

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Post Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:08 pm

Wags, take this as a compliment: Your music is in the artery (for the good) of Broadway. Maybe that’s been said before, but I think you missed your calling as a Tim Rice/Andrew Lloyd Webberesque type composer - but you do both words and music - which is a cool. Again, please take this as a compliment, but your music usually sounds “familiar” yet a bit unique, which is what I think of when I think of musicals. In other words, from my humble vantage point - :tu:

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jancivil
KVRAF
16105 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

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Post Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:15 pm

These are your lyrics? They're good. I for one won't have expected you to write from the POV of a young girl, but hey that's versatility isn't it.

But anyway, good clickbait in the original post.

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digitalboytn
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1280 posts since 8 Dec, 2008 from Global Cowboy

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Post Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:23 pm

I like this song...it has potential...

A couple of things that may strengthen the architecture of the song...

I feel that there is a smoother way for getting to the hook of the song instead of crashing into the A chord...that one is a bit jarring...

Try this for "matter much at all"....

Db/F / Gbm6....hold the Gbm6 for 2 beats and that ascension sets up a Db/Ab which is a better choice there than a regular Db...


I quite like the bridge...there are different harmonic choices you could use there,but what you have gone with is OK...

Regarding the sibilence of Ronine the Robot...

Sibilence is better than flatulence in a studio... We can use multiple de-essers on sibilence and that is easier than trying to remove the pong of an over cooked fart in a vocal booth :wink:

Finally...with regards to the playing and the production of the song...

The song needs a string arrangement to lift it up...a string arrangement that is scored properly...not one of the BS string parts where people hit a string patch and play a few chords...a properly orchestrated score...call William Ross..

The piano playing is too pedestrian...that part needs to open up and relax... not just state the obvious chords of the song...listen to David Foster...he's the king of making it sound so easy...

And....put your compressors away for a while,or back off the thresholds and the ratios...everything is too squashed....the piano for example...if you squash everything in a mix,it will never be dynamic and it will feel lifeless...

Just my two cents worth anyway...

But I think that the song has potential :tu:
Sorry - I don't use auto-tune....

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Aloysius
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22459 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from a computer

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Post Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:02 pm

wagtunes wrote:**WARNING** - Avoid this thread if you have no tolerance for bad music and vocals that sound like cats crying in the night. Otherwise, you have no one to blame for your suffering but you
The lack of a full stop at the end of this sentence disgusts me.
Happy Christmas

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risome
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1979 posts since 30 Oct, 2006 from Australia, NSW

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Post Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:37 pm

Where are the drums? Vocaloid really I'm vearing into space cant escape my reams wtf.Wheres the bottom end.This wouldn't even make Walmart elevator music
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thecontrolcentre
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23173 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

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Post Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:54 pm

Aloysius wrote:
wagtunes wrote:**WARNING** - Avoid this thread if you have no tolerance for bad music and vocals that sound like cats crying in the night. Otherwise, you have no one to blame for your suffering but you
The lack of a full stop at the end of this sentence disgusts me.
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Aloysius
KVRAF
22459 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from a computer

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Post Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:57 pm

:lol:
Happy Christmas

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an-electric-heart
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1561 posts since 13 Jun, 2008 from Napier,New Zealand

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Post Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:57 pm

Man... why are people so brutal to you when it comes to feedback, they're really out to get you... what did you do? :lol: The closest thing I've ever had to negative feedback was when I guy accused me of ripping off my music/backing track (it was a cover), so he obviously thought it was really good... but it was actually made by me, so it was actually kind of a compliment. :tu: :D

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layzer
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5742 posts since 11 Jun, 2006

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Post Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:05 pm

the song itself is ok for a simple piano ballad, the overall tone comes over with too much midrange to my ears.

On using those vocaloid things.... go full on robotic vocoder or find a real
singer anything else will just be ridiculed. my 2.

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1327 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle

Re: The Wagtunes Corner

Post Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:40 pm

If I imagine the track with a real young woman singing it, it's pretty damned good! As it stands I think the problem with Vocaloid etc. is the Uncanny Valley effect, it just ends up making the track creepy sounding, but without it being intentional.

In general though, I kind of love that about you Wagtunes, your kind of cringey forum name, the awkward line drawing of you that looks computer generated or drawn by an autistic christian, the Vocaloid creepy voices on your songs, the complete inability to not get into arguments about nothing with people on this forum who obviously have far too harsh of an opinion about you're sometimes overtly emotional posts about some soft synth or another. It all adds up to more character than most people exhibit on these forums, so you do you! :tu:

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digitalboytn
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1280 posts since 8 Dec, 2008 from Global Cowboy

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Post Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:40 pm

an-electric-heart wrote:Man... why are people so brutal to you when it comes to feedback, they're really out to get you... what did you do? :lol:
I thought that we were being positive,taking the time to make honest criticisms to make the track better...so much of the time here on KVR, people serve up music that is total crap,but there they are lapping up all of the dumb platitudes...if we want our music to evolve and get better,we need to listen to the criticism and act on it...Honesty is a good policy...

Of course,we could just say dishonestly beautiful things about crap music and just leave them to the sharks that lurk in the industry waters...

They have much sharper teeth than us and their wounds can often be fatal :wink:

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