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jancivil
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17542 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Post Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:08 pm

thanks for that


Ok, it's time I guess to come clean. There is no guitar. This is all MIDI, the guitar part is to SonicCouture XBow Guitar. I think it's a picked guitar, I chose something with a cool name and the interface does not have any bowed or E-Bow anything. It's bridge vs neck pickup, ring time, and stuff like this and then the FX pages.

Kind of ironically the edge of chaos effect of has involved enormous control. Incl the amp automation it's 70-some parameters. It really has been at the very edge of controllability, but not in a live type of feeding back situation at all.

The amp model is Kuassa's new one "Kaliburn" Caliburn with their Efektron Wah Filter, and then the resultant instrument channel in VE Pro is sent to Softube Metal Room. Which is extreme on purpose. And it is a bit sensitive to climatic changes. But the FX are all in Kontakt; the flanger, the rotator, the tape sat, bit crusher etc.
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seismic1
KVRAF
9141 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK

Re: Who Knows - raw basis {NEW}

Post Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:48 pm

experimental.crow wrote:.... this could use some terry bozzio ...
While you're at it, you may as well give Patrick a call :wink:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fctAdJ5ob50

Good work :)

cron
KVRAF
3149 posts since 27 Dec, 2002 from North East England

Re: Who Knows - raw basis {NEW}

Post Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:09 pm

I accidentally kicked my volume control before hitting play on this, and the initial blast came through as the loudest, most frightening sound I've heard in quite some time. I nearly shat myself.

Great stuff anyway. Plays as if Lou Reed's claims of encoding complex melodic and structural detail in Metal Machine Music were true after all.

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jancivil
KVRAF
17542 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Re: Who Knows - raw basis {NEW}

Post Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:01 pm

:-o

thanks for that


I'm still working on this part. Kind of procrastinating on the drums. filling in the root of some of the changes, and so forth - bass - is normalizing this some but the tone if anything is more brutal.
I had this ending which sounds like the amp's life is now over, which wasn't in this render but it consistently is now.

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jancivil
KVRAF
17542 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Re: Who Knows; now No One Told Me

Post Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:25 pm

Ok, this arrangement and compo is done.

I know I'm going to mix this a million more times but this is what I have today.
May bring the drums up a bit more in spots; the stupid finale has some clashes to contend with.

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Rock band size, guitar, piano, bass, drums but with reinforcement in orchestral percussion. The slightly gnarly Electric Cello (not their LABS Amplified Cello Ensemble) doubles a few of the lines.
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experimental.crow
KVRAF
5710 posts since 9 Mar, 2003 from The Druid Hills

Re: No One Told Me (fka "Who Knows", when it was really basic, "raw")

Post Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:23 am

enjoying where this is going ...
as i'm sure you're aware , you're going to need to mess w/ the drums
during your remixing ...
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jancivil
KVRAF
17542 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Re: No One Told Me (fka "Who Knows", when it was really basic, "raw")

Post Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:20 am

Big difference between the way these drums sound in and of themselves, or soloed, and in this mix. As usual.

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DJ LFD
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133 posts since 10 Dec, 2017

Re: No One Told Me (fka "Who Knows", when it was really basic, "raw")

Post Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:00 pm

I can make this in Fruity Slayer in 2 mins... but also good.
Aspiring HipHop Producer: https://soundcloud.com/djlfd

experimental.crow
KVRAF
5710 posts since 9 Mar, 2003 from The Druid Hills

Re: No One Told Me (fka "Who Knows", when it was really basic, "raw")

Post Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:06 pm

:wheee:
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vurt
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41762 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: No One Told Me (fka "Who Knows", when it was really basic, "raw")

Post Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:26 pm

/bites tongue.

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jancivil
KVRAF
17542 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Re: No One Told Me (fka "Who Knows", when it was really basic, "raw")

Post Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:35 pm

:lol:

free bump

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jancivil
KVRAF
17542 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Re: No One Told Me (fka "Who Knows", when it was really basic, "raw")

Post Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:56 pm

See below
(mp3 320mbps)


this is a hard mix
the drums need to be large but not take over. I was erring majorly in the direction of 'small', that much is clear.
I need to make some cuts in the lead track, I suppose, which I hate to do. EDIT: nah.
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seismic1
KVRAF
9141 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK

Re: No One Told Me (fka "Who Knows", when it was really basic, "raw")

Post Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:45 pm

I'm sure the latest link was working a couple of hours ago, but it's taking me back to the top of this page now :wheee:

experimental.crow
KVRAF
5710 posts since 9 Mar, 2003 from The Druid Hills

Re: No One Told Me (fka "Who Knows", when it was really basic, "raw")

Post Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:03 pm

:wheee:
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jancivil
KVRAF
17542 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Re: No One Told Me (fka "Who Knows", when it was really basic, "raw")

Post Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:52 pm

Alrighty then.

I been deleting these to avoid confusion and special file names at the dropbox.
It took a minute to reup because I was trying to do too many things at once, I was getting beach ball o' doom.

#5. I have to take a lot of time off these to have any perspective. Here I think the drums mix am nearing truth.

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