im the instructor.
tbh, i got caught with a bong at work, came up with the snpke enema idea.
luckily history had beaten me to it, so still working!
Well, I wasn't suggesting we get lawyered up or anything I just don't get why you put it like this:Mushy Mushy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:27 pmGiven the very friendly, polite context of this thread I would call the use of the word “accuse” unwarranted don’t you thinkel-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:30 pmIt only really became a "conversation" when you accused some of us of nitpicking, as though we were only in it to get our kicks pointing out minutia for no reason.Mushy Mushy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:10 pmI'm really not sure where this conversation is going. I liked it so...el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:07 pmMushy Mushy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:54 pmThe "loud" vocals were IMO reminiscent of The Velvet Underground so didn't need changing.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:47 pm
If you didn't hear that the vocals were mixed too loud on the first mix, that's ok. A few of us clearly did, and I assume that Donks did, also...which is why he was able to change it.
It has nothing to do with nitpicking. If you can hear something that might be improved, you make suggestions. It's up to the musician to weigh up whether those changes are worth the effort to make. There will always be a cut-off point, where diminishing returns meet the limit of our skills. But so far, with every iteration, DT seems to have improved things.
I don't think he needs to be coddled, called a genius, or have smoke blown up his arsehole, but what do I know?
Not trying to police your language, but it didn't feel in the spirit of "friendly...". Moreover, by definition, "nitpicking" has negative connotations, in that the motivation is generally to pull something apart to the nth degree, by way of criticism. I don't think it needs clarifying that my (and I'm sure others') opinion was offered in the spirit of trying to help someone to elevate an already great track. Clearly you and Wags thought it wasn't helpful, and maybe it wasn't
Wasn't that just before you broke your nose, walking into a Fraxinus excelsior, just to prove to him that in fact you couldn't see the trees for the wooddonkey tugger wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:45 pmas I've said before, what my ex-boss once called a, 'wood for trees situation', just before I smacked the c**t. )
True, and agreed that only you yourself will know when enough tinkering is enough...but (and there's always one...) there is a cumulative effect a lot of small changes (particularly in things like volume/eq automation etc) can have on a song, particularity in pop and rock . To the casual listener they probably wouldn't be able to point out why it sounds better, but all together such little things can add up and create a lot more tension and impact than if levels etc remain static throughout.wagtunes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:24 pm
But eventually, as somebody pointed out, you reach a point of diminishing returns where criticisms are so minute that they don't really warrant the time it would take to spend on them to get a 1 tenth of 1 percent improvement in the sound. And that's going to vary from person to person.
jethrobull wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:59 pm Fantastic stuff as usual! What more can I say apart from, more sitar please
vurt wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:10 pmjethrobull wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:59 pm Fantastic stuff as usual! What more can I say apart from, more sitar please
Cheers! Soon...laziness and minor ailments permitting.jethrobull wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:59 pm Fantastic stuff as usual! What more can I say apart from, more please
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