midiAudiotoCC Mac OS X

[dualmono]

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Heya,

I just learned about your great suite of plugins and decided to try midiAudiotoCC to view volumes on my launchpad.
Using Ableton Live 8.1.3 on MacOS X 10.6.5. pizmidi downloaded via this link:
http://thepiz.org/pizmidi/pizmidi.dmg (http://thepiz.org/pizmidi/pizmidi.dmg)

Please excuse if this is a noob question and I overlooked something.
I verified this on two different computers (same system and same version of Ableton Live), and midiAudiotoCC crashes Ableton Live after a few restarts of the Live set.

I tried a completely new Live set with nothing but the two standard tracks (1 Audio and 1 MIDI track).
Dragging midiAudiotoCC to the MIDI track without anything else in the set. No clip, no Launchpad attached, no third party applications which tinker with MIDI signals running.
Pressing play and stop then play again crashes Ableton Live on both computers.

Is there anything I have to set in the pizmidi.ini to make it work?

Once I get this running successfully, I guess I could need some advise on how to setup midiAudiotoCC to display a volume meter on my launchpad, but first things first.

Thank you for your help (and the great set of plugins, which I'm looking forward to use once Live runs).

Cheers,
dualmono

[insertpizhere]

well, it's not supposed to crash, and you shouldn't have to change the ini file. i recently updated the mac versions without much testing... i'll try to investigate tomorrow, but you could try the previous release:
http://thepiz.org/pizmidi/pizmidi_old.dmg

[dualmono]

Thanks for getting back to me.

Unfortunately the old version crashes Ableton also.
Hold on... on the .dmg the pizmidi.txt reads:
changes 20101130

as last revision, but on KVR the latest version is listed as:
20101224

Both downloads on pizmidi.org and on KVR have 20101130 listed as last revision.
Could those be an older revision, hence the crash? Maybe there is a mixup somewhere... or the pizmidi.txt isn't the most recent one, I don't know.
*doh* I just saw the changelog post in another thread. so that all correct then.
No clue whats happening...


I updated to Live 8.2.1 before testing again by the way. Hesitated long enough (I'm careful with updates of the applications I count on until they are confirmed to be working as intended).

Thanks for your help!
I'll gladly assist analysing the new Mac revision. Since my signature isn't showing: I'm using this on an 21" 2009 iMac (intel), Mac OS 10.6.5 and Ableton Live 8.2.1.

Cheers,
dualmono


ps. Wait, or is the error sitting in front of my screen maybe? I am supposed to drop the plugin on a Midi track and then route audio from another track to the Midi track, correct?

[insertpizhere]

thanks for testing. i'd like to get this to work...
i made a few minor changes and uploaded this:
http://thepiz.org/pizmidi/midiAudioToCC.vst.zip

for setting it up in Live, this version should show up as a VST effect, so you can put midiAudioToCC on a track after the audio source, and then have another MIDI track which receives the MIDI from it and sends it out.

i can't see what would be making it crash... if Live 8 will run on my mac i'll test it there.


there is also this one:
http://thepiz.org/xt/audiotocc_mac.zip

i've been working on an updated version of this, but haven't moved it over to the mac yet.

[dualmono]

I am glad to report that both plugins work a-ok!
Though my Testsetup consisted only of the standard Ableton Live 8.2.1 set (one audio track, one midi track, send A, send B, with any of the plugins dropped on the audio track).
I noticed that there is a slighty higher 'level' (that would be higher CC values) on the right channel, but that could also be some sort of delay the reaction of the controllers (Launchpad in my case) display. Both channels seem to be more in sync when I insert a 'mono' plugin in front of MidiAudioToCC or AudioToCC, but there still is a tiny bit of difference. Right channel is shown a little bit 'louder' on the graphical display. Maybe the CC values have a little bit of difference in number rounding, nothing significant. If you want to see several display showing the same meter for a mono sum of channels, split a mono instance to several CC values with MidiYoke (if I remember, thats the swiss knife on PC), or MidiPipe (on Mac).

Very exciting, and thanks for your work on the suite of plugins.
Greatly appreciated!

I will test both of the plugins in my live Live set with continuous cpu load and several more hardware midi instruments and software midi routing going on, and see whats going on.

Tiny question:
In your board post of AudioToMidi I can see a gui (not that I need it, though it would be a nice touch), is it only available for the PC version, or just not finished for the Mac one?

Cheers,
dualmono


ps. I just remembered that I reset my Virtual MIDI connections in the AudioMidi Setup of Mac OS tonight. Now, it could be that I have removed an error on my side and enabled the plugins to work, or it was a combination of your changes to the plugins and changes to my setup. Will try the old midiAudioToCC in a sec.
...
Edit: Yup, both, the old, and the older version still crashe Live so it wasn't my setup (I think ^^.).
Thanks again for correcting it!

[insertpizhere]

fixed the left/right level mismatch, hopefully:
http://thepiz.org/pizmidi/midiAudioToCC.vst.zip

the GUI version of AudioToCC will be available for the mac eventually... the main problem is that i'm using a 450MHz G4, so it takes a while to compile larger projects.

[CuriousInventor]

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It's been a while, but I wanted to say that the plugin in the main package is still broken (crashes Live), but I was able to get the updated version linked here to work, also.

I made a tutorial for using this to send midi controller messages out to an external MIDI controller: http://vmeter.net/how-to-make-a-vu-mete ... th-vmeter/ (http://vmeter.net/how-to-make-a-vu-meter-in-live-with-vmeter/) I was searching for a while trying to find a plugin that would help turn my MIDI controller (lighted touch strip) into a VU Meter. thanks!

One more question, is there any way to type in VST plugin parameter values in Ableton Live if the plugin doesn't have an interface, or do you just have to use the XY axis input?

[insertpizhere]

Thanks for letting me know... strange that the updated version wasn't in the main package, but maybe I forgot. Anyway I just updated all the plugins for Windows and Mac, so hopefully it still works.

The VMeter looks awesome. Here's a clickable link:
http://vmeter.net/how-to-make-a-vu-mete ... th-vmeter/

I don't know of a way to type in parameter values in Live, but you can hold ctrl for fine tuning.