Audio / video recording under Windows

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DJ Warmonger
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3354 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw

Post Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:56 pm

Hello folks,

I decided to pursue the career of Youtuber :wink: . However, I'm struggling to get my setup right. For now I'd like to:

- Screen capture Ableton Live (done)
- Capture my pretty face (done)
- Record audio from microphone into separate channel (with noise reduction), but do not hear my own delayed voice in headphones.
- Synchronize it all (TODO?)

For now I couldn't even route the audio from my camera anywhere, including Ableton - it's all or nothing. Do I need standalone mic or there's some option to reroute the audio from Logitech C920 cam?
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planetearth
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1603 posts since 10 Jul, 2006 from Tampa

Re: Audio / video recording under Windows

Post Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:26 pm

If Windows sees the C902 as a mic/audio input device, you should be able to do whatever you want with it. Does it show up as one? And which version of Windows are you using?

Steve
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DJ Warmonger
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Re: Audio / video recording under Windows

Post Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:41 pm

Windows 10.

I can see it as an "input device" and "audio device" in settings panel, but not quite sure where to go from here? I can't select it anywhere in Ableton, in particular.
Logitech Webcam - audio.png
Logitech Webcam - microphone.png
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planetearth
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Re: Audio / video recording under Windows

Post Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:45 pm

Which audio driver are you using, WDM or ASIO? I can't tell from the "Input 3/4...Input 1/2" screen if those are inputs in Ableton, or some other app, for example.

Steve
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DJ Warmonger
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Re: Audio / video recording under Windows

Post Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:53 pm

^This is just default Windows settings menu, as I see in Control Panel :P

I use ASIO in Ableton, can see only physical inputs from my audio interface.
ASIO - Ableton.png
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planetearth
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Re: Audio / video recording under Windows

Post Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:58 pm

The Logitech doesn't show because you're using the Komplete Audio 6 as your input and output device in Ableton. You can only use one ASIO device in Windows at a time for input and output, so since you're using the Komplete, the Logitech won't be an option.

Can you try WDM or one of the other Windows drivers? You may be able to use "two" input devices (the Logitech and the Komplete Audio), while using the Komplete Audio for the output device. The latency will probably be pretty bad, though.

Steve
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DJ Warmonger
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Re: Audio / video recording under Windows

Post Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:11 am

Okay, but how do I get any WDM drivers in first place? WDM redirects to Windows Driver Model, which is probably not what I need.
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planetearth
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Re: Audio / video recording under Windows

Post Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:19 am

The WDM drivers are part of Windows. You should be able to choose them for your "Driver Type", right where you have ASIO now. Just try some of the others in there, to see if you get an option to use more than one input device.

Another option would be ASIO4All. I don't recommend it in general--especially if you already have ASIO drivers. But for what you're trying to do here, it should give you the option to use more than one input device. You may still have some latency issues, but it gives you a fair amount of control to tweak it so that you can minimize any problems it creates.

http://asio4all.org

Steve
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DJ Warmonger
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Re: Audio / video recording under Windows

Post Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:51 am

Thank you.

Look like this is not going to work anyway. With built-in I can hear the mouse click at the same level as my own voice. Probably will need to get dedicated mic with jack out, such Tracer Studio Pro.
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DJ Warmonger
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Re: Audio / video recording under Windows

Post Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:26 am

I was partially successful, but only on the input side. I can record my voice in Komplete Audio 6 and route it to Ableton. However, ity only outputs to Komplete Audio 6 and I can't record it with video capture software. The latter only uses system inputs (or Realtek stereo mix, as described here: https://www.howtogeek.com/217348/how-to ... tereo-mix/).

Routing cable from output into second line in is not an option, since I need stereo.

There must to a way to route and capture everything under Windows, come on :dog:
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DJ Warmonger
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Re: Audio / video recording under Windows

Post Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:06 am

Another option would be ASIO4All. I don't recommend it in general--especially if you already have ASIO drivers. But for what you're trying to do here, it should give you the option to use more than one input device.
I managed to make ASIO4All making inside Ableton... but only to limited extent. It seems to only allow one input / output from my interface - simply clicking an option makes it toggle one or another, but never all at once:
Asio4All.png
Also, It doesn't show as a recording source nowhere at all, so far not useful.
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DJ Warmonger
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Re: Audio / video recording under Windows

Post Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:48 am

Update: While there's some virtual cable utility https://www.vb-audio.com/Cable/index.htm it is not standardized and recording apps (new and free, at least) don't want to work with it. Despite that, setting up a chain of independent 3rd-party utilities begs for errors and is a chore to operate.

Someone on Ableton forum recommended me getting an external mixer, probably I'll have to try that...
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