EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

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Mister Natural
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2453 posts since 28 Oct, 2007 from michigan

Post Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:44 pm

Solar - you might try this as it helped me before. Delete all the input strips and add new ones. Then restart and see if you get sound

best of luck
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Solarity
KVRer
3 posts since 16 Feb, 2014

Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Oth

Post Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:39 pm

I've done that many times in the normal course of learning PatchMix, and sometimes I encounter what seems like an anomoly that is cured by loading an old working session file, or the default, or as you suggest, starting from scratch. But that's not the issue here. I have sound, it's being handled predictably by PatchMix, and heard by Pro Tools (which itself manages to trip me up sometimes, but does hear PatchMix if I set the I/O right). It's just not getting into Total Recorder. TR's tech response has responded, asking for a data log file, which I've sent them. Hopefully they'll soon have an answer, yea or nay.

Solarity
KVRer
3 posts since 16 Feb, 2014

Convert from ASIO input data to appear like software output?

Post Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:45 pm

Might there be some kind of software that would accept the ASIO stream and convert it so that it looks to Audacity (etc.) like it was coming from software (e.g., as if from a Flash player or YouTube)?

The Tenant
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2 posts since 11 Mar, 2014

Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

Post Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:34 am

Very useful thread.

I think it is crucial to name the model of the motherboard you're using -whether you've got the 1212m worked or not- so that we'll eventually have a list about compatible/non MBs.

Regarding the PCI version, I've read some posts about "bridged" and "native" PCI slots and that the bridged ones may cause conflicts, but I'm not 100% sure about that.
RexXx wrote:It could help, before you buy a motherboard, download the manual and look what IRQ's are shared.
I've done that and checked that Asus Z87-K has a PCI slot which shares the IRQ with an *empty* PCIe x1, so it's practically free. BUT, many people say that you don't have to worry even if it wasn't free, because APIC will figure out the connections. What's your opinion/experience about that? Does APIC really work or do we have to go by the manual?

robotmonkey
KVRAF
2401 posts since 20 Jun, 2012

Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

Post Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:05 am

The Tenant wrote:
I've done that and checked that Asus Z87-K has a PCI slot which shares the IRQ with an *empty* PCIe x1, so it's practically free. BUT, many people say that you don't have to worry even if it wasn't free, because APIC will figure out the connections. What's your opinion/experience about that? Does APIC really work or do we have to go by the manual?
If you want to use PCI audio then go with motherboard that has second PCIe controller like some Asrock motherboards (Extreme 4 series for example). Otherwise when PCI is emulated and shares the same lanes with PCIe you will get into trouble if any PCIe slots are populated. This was a huge problem with first Sandy Bridge motherboards.
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The Tenant
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2 posts since 11 Mar, 2014

Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

Post Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:21 pm

robotmonkey wrote:If you want to use PCI audio then go with motherboard that has second PCIe controller like some Asrock motherboards (Extreme 4 series for example). Otherwise when PCI is emulated and shares the same lanes with PCIe you will get into trouble if any PCIe slots are populated. This was a huge problem with first Sandy Bridge motherboards.
Can you please tell me how do you figure out the number of PCIe controllers that a motherboard supports? I've read many boards' specs, but I couldn't find any info. Perhaps, it's something I'm not familiar with..

robotmonkey
KVRAF
2401 posts since 20 Jun, 2012

Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

Post Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:17 am

The Tenant wrote: Can you please tell me how do you figure out the number of PCIe controllers that a motherboard supports? I've read many boards' specs, but I couldn't find any info. Perhaps, it's something I'm not familiar with..
It should be somewhere on the specs. For example my current Asrock borad has additional PLX PEX8608 PCIe controller.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z68%20Extreme4%20Gen3/
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slipslap
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1 posts since 20 May, 2014

Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

Post Mon May 19, 2014 10:40 pm

Hi
I have recently upgraded to Windows 7 Home (64-bit edition) and cannot install the drivers for the E-mu 1616m at all. I am trying to install the latest Beta version that others seem to have used successfully. When I try to install them on my PC the installation just hangs running ctxapp.exe (or something like that). If I leave it long enough the PC crashes with a Blue Screen of Death. I have tried running them in compatibility mode under XP sp2 and XP sp3, but with no luck. (I previously had them running fine on XP sp3.) Does anyone have any suggestions before I go out and buy a new sound dock?! Any useful suggestions gratefully received.

Thanks in advance.

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RexXx
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360 posts since 14 Jul, 2005 from Germany

Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

Post Tue May 20, 2014 2:29 am

Sounds like wrong driver/app, IRQ conflict or broken installers.

Check for IRQ conflicts in Windows Device Manager ("View Resources by Type", IRQ).
http://www.helpwithpcs.com/upgrading/ch ... ttings.htm

If your E-MU card is sharing the same IRQ with another device, try to disable, deactivate or remove that sharing devices.
Sometimes it can help, if you install you E-MU card in a different PCi/PCI-e slot. Mostly it gives your EMU card a different IRQ.

Before install:
Uninstall previous driver completly.
Disable antivirus!
(Optional) disable onboard network, sound device, etc. in your bios... everything you don`t need to run windows (I have done this before I installed Win7).

Install:
You can extract Emu installers with 7-Zip or WinRar to manually run the setups or install the driver/app.
Run setups as admin!
Install first the driver (EmuPMX_PCDrv_US_2_30_00_BETA.exe),
reboot,
then the app (EmuPMX_PCApp_US_2_20_00.exe)

Worth a look, unoffical E-MU forum:
http://www.productionforums.com/viewforum.php?f=114
It`s not a bug... it`s a feature!

umd
KVRian
1060 posts since 26 Feb, 2006 from Fartland

Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

Post Tue May 20, 2014 11:39 am

My 1820m works great here with Windows 7 x64 ( in a pci slot with its own IRQ ).

This was a while ago, but from the top of my head:

I installed the 2.10 drivers:

http://support.creative.com/downloads/d ... adId=10586

And then installed the latest patchmix version from the PCI-E series ( actually I did this by accident, but since it worked anyway... I didn't changed it ):

http://support.creative.com/downloads/d ... adId=11912
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rpm61
KVRer
2 posts since 8 Feb, 2011 from New Jersey / Philadelphia

EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 8.1

Post Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:34 am

In case anyone is interested, I have now upgraded to WIndows 8.1 Pro 64 bit and am using my 1212m successfully.

I have an Asus p8p67 pro, i7, 8G ram. Using it with Sonar and Guitar Rig with no issues. I did disable on-board sound card. I downloaded both the 2.30 patch Beta and the older 2.30 drivers, I'm using the older driver and not the Beta.
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Mister Natural
KVRAF
2453 posts since 28 Oct, 2007 from michigan

Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

Post Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:50 am

what are you guys getting for latency with this card ?

I'm happily using a circa 2009 set-up with :
Gigabyte mobo - AMD PhenomII Quad @ 3.0ghz(w/no OC) - WIN7 64bit - 8 gb ram - NVidia GForce 8400gs - LIVE 9.1.4 @ 24bit
LIVE's error compensation set at 7.01ms = overall latency of .32ms
I run only two audio inputs & a lot of MIDI at 128 sample buffer all day with zero issues

IMHO - this is a great card

peace
Last edited by Mister Natural on Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:01 am, edited 1 time in total.
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KVRian
1060 posts since 26 Feb, 2006 from Fartland

Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

Post Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:54 am

192 samples@48Khz, without any issues. :-)
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rpm61
KVRer
2 posts since 8 Feb, 2011 from New Jersey / Philadelphia

Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

Post Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:29 am

176 samples. 3.7.ms at 48 and can actually go down to 88 samples and 1.8ms but why?
Having no problems here, when I hear about issues I think they are usually related to other processes running on those machines and correctable.
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momohk
KVRer
3 posts since 13 Sep, 2004

Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

Post Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:22 am

Hello all.

Is someone using 2 1212m in one system ?

I am new to this card and i love the dsp and the range oft the outputsignal. But i need more inputs.
So i would try to get a second card if they will work together.

Is there a modern card with a DSP like this ?

Thanx

Momo

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