Tracking Apple Silicon Native Hosts, Plugins, Effects

[teilo]

Just got confirmation from Moog that their Model 15 app, which they brought to MacOS from iOS, was designed and tested specifically with the M1 dev kits.

I knew about this one but forgot to add it. It's actually been available since January. I already owned it on iOS, so I got this as a freebie.

Here's hoping that their Model D, Animoog, and Filtatron plugins also get ported. If they follow suite, anyone who owns the iOS apps gets these on Mac automatically.

[bmanic]

I can confirm that at least Acustica Audio Amethyst 4 and Cream 2 works natively in Reaper ARM version.

I suspect the list here is accurate:

https://www.acustica-audio.com/pages/sp ... compatible

[Ploki]

Native
https://phonolyth.com/products/velvet-machine

[BoogerSnot]

Just got confirmation from Moog that their Model 15 app, which they brought to MacOS from iOS, was designed and tested specifically with the M1 dev kits.

Trying it out now in native mode without Rosetta, seems to work just fine. You can even expand the window to view more of the interface, which along with the built in zoom helps you see more.

Also, just like on iOS it can be used as an effect.

https://www.moogmusic.com/products/mode ... esizer-app

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Model 15 is currently free. For how long I do not know.

[jancivil]

It is! I checked like a week ago and it cost 10 bucks or 20 bucks or something.
Doesn't work on Catalina. I'm waiting for Reaktor to work on Big Sur, most things I'm going to even use do now.

[teilo]

What did I say???!

Bitwig is the first major DAW to go Apple Silicon Native!

https://www.bitwig.com/whats-new/

(Yes, I know, Reaper... So sue me.)

[Chapelle]

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[Kongru]

What did I say???!

Bitwig is the first major DAW to go Apple Silicon Native!

https://www.bitwig.com/whats-new/

(Yes, I know, Reaper... So sue me.)

Being able to use Intel and Arm VSTs at the same time? Does that mean Rosetta will no longer be required if you use Bitwig?

[cadiz]

What did I say???!

Bitwig is the first major DAW to go Apple Silicon Native!

https://www.bitwig.com/whats-new/

(Yes, I know, Reaper... So sue me.)

Being able to use Intel and Arm VSTs at the same time? Does that mean Rosetta will no longer be required if you use Bitwig?

Yes, you'll need Rosetta to run Intel VSTs, but Bitwig will run native!

[Ploki]

be aware that plugins behave differently when DAW is native and plugs are wrapped in rosetta.
i.e. softube plugs don't work well that way at all - but work flawlessly when DAW is rosetta.

[FlareStar]

It seems a lot of plugins that listed as "m1 native" only updated AU versions, almost all my VST version still listed as "Intel" arch...what a shame!

[cadiz]

be aware that plugins behave differently when DAW is native and plugs are wrapped in rosetta.
i.e. softube plugs don't work well that way at all - but work flawlessly when DAW is rosetta.

In which DAW did you see this behavior?

[teilo]

It seems a lot of plugins that listed as "m1 native" only updated AU versions, almost all my VST version still listed as "Intel" arch...what a shame!

Examples? The only dev I'm aware that is doing this is Synapse. I'd like to get that fixed in the OP if that's the case.

[FlareStar]

Maybe its some kind of bug of Bitwig 4.0 Beta, but almost every plugin i run native in Logic Pro listed as "Intel" in Bitwig.

Serum, Surge, FabFilter stuff, Valhalla, Scaler 2, Nexus 3...etc

[Ploki]

be aware that plugins behave differently when DAW is native and plugs are wrapped in rosetta.
i.e. softube plugs don't work well that way at all - but work flawlessly when DAW is rosetta.

In which DAW did you see this behavior?

Logic, Plugin Doctor. Can't remember reaper?