Why does Microsoft hate us (#@$ Windows 10)

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KVRian
869 posts since 7 Apr, 2019 from Canada

Post Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:14 pm

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KVRAF
7024 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA

Post Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:38 pm

my updates are automatic, I don't even think about it at all
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KVRian
1125 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc

Post Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:18 am

ATS wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:38 pm
my updates are automatic, I don't even think about it at all
Hi, have you had any problems, like when update starts and you are making audio or non-bootable OS after updates? Any audio problems?
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GRRRRRRR!
12311 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:00 am

mixyguy2 wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:23 am
omg this thing is annoying. I feel like I've had like 800 patches I was *forced* to install just this year...and the latest, I installed one just yesterday...and this morning it tells me I need yet ANOTHER update. Are you kidding me?
Who f**king cares? Updates install all by themselves and your PC won't restart while you're using it so what difference does it make? Grow up, FFS!

For the record, I get updates fortnightly, every second Thursday. Occasionally I get a new beta to install, because I'm an Insider, but mostly it's just fortnightly virus definition updates. Would you prefer that your PC wasn't protected from potential threats? Of course, twice a year we get new version updates but theya re usually tied to a fortnightly update, not extras.
Erisian wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:28 am
I use win7 and my wife uses win8. That was a big enough leap in itself. Bloatware? Slow? I'm really not looking forward to buying a new computer when this one dies!
Actually, it's the opposite - Windows 8/10 use one-third fewer system resources than Windows 7, half the resources of XP.
AcrossTheSky wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:22 am
the idea of upgrading after what I hear all the time about W10 is not stg I'm looking forward to...so...I may just stay with 8.1 and not be able to use some stuff...
What, exactly, do you hear about W10 that puts you off? I still have 8.1 on my 8" tablet, because W8 is better for small touchscreens, but there is nothing on Dog's Green Earth that would make me run Win8.1 on either of my main machines. Win8 isn't awful but Win10 is so much better in pretty much every way.
Dirtgrain wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:42 am
At least three times in the last year, a Windows update has made my Focusrite Asio driver disappear--so I have to reinstall. PIA.
I've never had anything like that happen and I a) have 5 different device drivers installed, and b) work exclusively on beta/pre-release versions of Win10. Sounds like you were extremely unfortunate (or Focusrite made a mistake).
CrystalWizard wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:10 pm
constantly being “reminded” to use the crap default programs, trying to get rid of all the crap bloat, etc.
That sounds like out and out bullshit to me. The only time I get hassled to use a particular application is when I visit anything Google. Yes, Windows will ask you what you want to use as the default for different file types but once you set it, it never asks again. And a fresh Windows 10 install has zero bloat. I cannot think of a single thing I had to remove from my Surface Pro or from my Dell G7. Yes, the Dell has gaming features that are useless to me but it doesn't seem worth uninstalling any of it.

For me, Windows 10 has required by far the least amount of f**king about - it just works. It is far and away the best version of Windows ever and miles ahead of Linux or macOS.
metamorphosis wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:34 am
The hard drive access has gotten slower and slower with win10, to the point that nobody can use it without an ssd drive anymore. WHich is... BIZARRE.
No, what's bizarre is that anyone still uses a HDD in 2021. I don't think I've had one (internal) since 2010. Of course, at work our Macs all had HDDs but our new PCs are SSDs all the way.
legendCNCD wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:18 am
Hi, have you had any problems, like when update starts and you are making audio or non-bootable OS after updates? Any audio problems?
Yes, all the time and I never even notice until I go to shut down and it shows "Update and Restart" and "Update and Shut Down". Even the last big update was like that and I'm on a 2015 Surface Pro (not a fast machine by current standards) so I'd notice if it was intrusive.
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KVRAF
9833 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:20 am

I never update mine, never had a prob

win7, over 10 Yr old pc

KVRAF
4535 posts since 22 Nov, 2012

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:55 am

"windows 11" disk image was apparently leaked out of china and is all over the tech world rn. lol. they can't even do that right.

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KVRAF
11154 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:04 am

If you run your computer hooked up to the internet, you’re just going to have to deal with updates no matter what OS you’re using. Turn off auto updates and disconnect your computer from any internet/network and you’ll most likely never need to update if everything is working well.
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KVRAF
10294 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:15 am

Dasheesh wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:55 am
"windows 11" disk image was apparently leaked out of china and is all over the tech world rn. lol. they can't even do that right.
That is, most probably, a fake :roll:
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KVRAF
4535 posts since 22 Nov, 2012

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:33 am

most likely not, but most likely an early build.

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/14 ... 90914?s=20

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KVRAF
10294 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:48 am

Dasheesh wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:33 am
most likely not, but most likely an early build.

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/14 ... 90914?s=20
Let's wait and see. Anyway, one thing I am sure. It will not break compatibility with pretty much everything that's running now, as Apple usually does in any new version of macOS.
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KVRAF
2737 posts since 5 Nov, 2014

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:49 am


KVRAF
4535 posts since 22 Nov, 2012

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:16 am

well, they CLEARLY stated, and i quote "our view is microsoft windows is not an OS, it's our view that windows is a service."

a lot of folks theorizing cloud based subscription service, so I'm kind of surprised to see a disk image escape at all tbh.

KVRian
1125 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:32 am

zerocrossing wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:04 am
If you run your computer hooked up to the internet, you’re just going to have to deal with updates no matter what OS you’re using. Turn off auto updates and disconnect your computer from any internet/network and you’ll most likely never need to update if everything is working well.
I tested this on my laptop and still WUPDATE sprang to life every day, I think twice at least and took 25% of all 4 cores and affected audio path on this particular laptop. This was on 1903. I used sledgehammer to turn updates completely off.
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KVRian
1125 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:34 am

BONES wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:00 am
legendCNCD wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:18 am
Hi, have you had any problems, like when update starts and you are making audio or non-bootable OS after updates? Any audio problems?
Yes, all the time and I never even notice until I go to shut down and it shows "Update and Restart" and "Update and Shut Down". Even the last big update was like that and I'm on a 2015 Surface Pro (not a fast machine by current standards) so I'd notice if it was intrusive.
Ah, so you didnt have any problems. Ok. My experience was different on a lowend laptop and 1903 version.
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KVRAF
1514 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit Sol III

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:53 am

BONES wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:00 am
CrystalWizard wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:10 pm
constantly being “reminded” to use the crap default programs, trying to get rid of all the crap bloat, etc.
That sounds like out and out bullshit to me. The only time I get hassled to use a particular application is when I visit anything Google. Yes, Windows will ask you what you want to use as the default for different file types but once you set it, it never asks again. And a fresh Windows 10 install has zero bloat. I cannot think of a single thing I had to remove from my Surface Pro or from my Dell G7. Yes, the Dell has gaming features that are useless to me but it doesn't seem worth uninstalling any of it.
Perhaps, just perhaps our experiences are different. No, it’s not bullshit, it just “sounds like it” to you. Daily, i’m asked “do i want to change my default browser to edge?-“fk no i dont. Almost daily do i want to use the pile of crap Office 365? No thanks, i’ve got LibreOffice. Not as frequently “do i want to activate one drive? No, the cloud is “someone elses computer.”
I guess i should have kept a list of all the crap i’ve removed but to be fair much of that (not nearly all) was thrown on there by the manufacturer not Windoze. So, it’s your opinion that i’m posting bs, not anything more. There a long list of other annoying sh*t about W10, for another time ( or not). Lastly, i am not one of your hater fans, i find most of your posts relevant.
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