FR: Tal Drum Sampler 4x4
- KVRAF
- 3834 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Underworld
This Impact XT is designed excellent. It's got everything you need from a drum machine [not sure about layers per pad?] in a simple layout.
The only thing that bothers me is envelope faders which are too small. Drums usually need very precise adjustments of envelopes.
The only thing that bothers me is envelope faders which are too small. Drums usually need very precise adjustments of envelopes.
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- KVRist
- 352 posts since 11 Jan, 2014
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Distorted Horizon Distorted Horizon https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=392076
- Banned
- 3882 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats
If anyone is using Bitwig or Live, just load drum machine device and add tal sampler to as many pads as you want/need.
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- KVRist
- 340 posts since 30 Jun, 2009 from moon
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Each DAW has a different sound.
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neverbeeninariot neverbeeninariot https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=350084
- KVRian
- 912 posts since 3 Feb, 2015 from UK
It would be easier to use the Bitwig sampler, no? Then you can drag and drop samples straight to the pads : ) If you need the sampler emulation stuff, then TAL-DAC could be added to the pad chain.Distorted Horizon wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:19 am If anyone is using Bitwig or Live, just load drum machine device and add tal sampler to as many pads as you want/need.
If you're not using Bitwig, then there's more than a few 4x4 (or more) drum samplers around, at various price points, and varying functionality (Nuance (currently 40% off), Atlas, XO, Nerve, Battery, etc...). Or hold out for TAL-Drum... : )
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- KVRAF
- 2398 posts since 28 Sep, 2012
Patrick has said that for drum samples, the TAL Dac will produce he same sound as Sampler. For instruments, Sampler is needed. So, it seems that using TAL Dac with whatever drum solution of choice will be sufficient.
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Distorted Horizon Distorted Horizon https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=392076
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- 3882 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats
Too easy and makes too much senseneverbeeninariot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:46 pm If you need the sampler emulation stuff, then TAL-DAC could be added to the pad chain.
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neverbeeninariot neverbeeninariot https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=350084
- KVRian
- 912 posts since 3 Feb, 2015 from UK
Distorted Horizon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:06 pmToo easy and makes too much senseneverbeeninariot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:46 pm If you need the sampler emulation stuff, then TAL-DAC could be added to the pad chain.
- KVRAF
- 3187 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from People's Republic of Minnesota
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- KVRist
- 352 posts since 11 Jan, 2014
Not really, you’re missing out on all the pitch shifting algorithms.perpetual3 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:51 pm Patrick has said that for drum samples, the TAL Dac will produce he same sound as Sampler. For instruments, Sampler is needed. So, it seems that using TAL Dac with whatever drum solution of choice will be sufficient.
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- KVRAF
- 2398 posts since 28 Sep, 2012
I asked him this question directly and that’s what he said. I just rack up Sampler for drums.RobGee wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:02 amNot really, you’re missing out on all the pitch shifting algorithms.perpetual3 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:51 pm Patrick has said that for drum samples, the TAL Dac will produce he same sound as Sampler. For instruments, Sampler is needed. So, it seems that using TAL Dac with whatever drum solution of choice will be sufficient.
- KVRist
- 352 posts since 11 Jan, 2014
Well Patrick is presuming that people don’t pitch their drums which is not the case. Seeing as Tal Sampler was so cheap, I’d happily pay for a drum sampler from them that has all the same resampling modes and filters but is more tailored towards drums with multiple outputs etc. I won’t be holding my breath though...perpetual3 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:01 pmI asked him this question directly and that’s what he said. I just rack up Sampler for drums.RobGee wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:02 amNot really, you’re missing out on all the pitch shifting algorithms.perpetual3 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:51 pm Patrick has said that for drum samples, the TAL Dac will produce he same sound as Sampler. For instruments, Sampler is needed. So, it seems that using TAL Dac with whatever drum solution of choice will be sufficient.
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- KVRian
- 1481 posts since 26 Apr, 2019 from Netherlands
Do you play your drum samples at various pitches? For example one tom sample played as high, mid and low tom? Then I can see why you'd want the different aliasing per pitch.
If you don't play your drum samples at various pitches, then you can use TAL DAC and just dial in the sample rate you like.
What helps for that extra grit is to pitch up your samples in a wave editor first (for example +8), then load those samples in your sampler/sample play and pitch them down again (-8).
If you don't play your drum samples at various pitches, then you can use TAL DAC and just dial in the sample rate you like.
What helps for that extra grit is to pitch up your samples in a wave editor first (for example +8), then load those samples in your sampler/sample play and pitch them down again (-8).
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- KVRist
- 57 posts since 1 Jun, 2019
The world needs a drum sampler with quality pitch shifting like the 8 point windowed sinc interpolation in the Akai S1000. I have yet to hear a soft sampler sound as good when pitching drums as my '90s Akai, Emu and Yamaha samplers. It's hard to fathom how we're in 2020 and these old boxes still sound so much tastier than DAW samplers.
Want to try it in TAL Sampler, but tbh the interface isn't well suited to drums at all...I'd be very interested in trying a repackaged version of it. The sound engine is already there...I think such a product would be very popular.
Want to try it in TAL Sampler, but tbh the interface isn't well suited to drums at all...I'd be very interested in trying a repackaged version of it. The sound engine is already there...I think such a product would be very popular.
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- KVRAF
- 2398 posts since 28 Sep, 2012
What host are you using? TAL Sampler is pretty low CPU. You can just instantiate an instance for each pad in an Ableton rack or Bitwig drum device, not sure of other hosts though.