v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

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xbitz
KVRAF
2288 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Post Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:54 pm

^^^ notes jump higher an octave using note mapping (any kind of note prop changes)
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pls. check note selection too
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seems ok with closed voicing, so it's a custom voicing related issue (I've played with the Chord Voicing Editor (which is supercool) before I've began to use the phraser)

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and yepp,
I am sorry for the misleading note labels (Root, 3rd, 5th) which actually mean 'chord lowest note', 'chord second note', 'chord third note' but can be entirely different notes when voicing is used. E.g. when you omit the root note, the lowest note will still be displayed as 'Root' :( (Internally the modified chord will have the 3rd as the lowest note)
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should use some pre-postfix to able to distinguish the voice index and position index (dunno for ex. p3rd or i5th etc. :) )
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lulukom
KVRian
789 posts since 30 Nov, 2013

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:52 am

Hi Attila!
Many thanks for the chord voicing.
It is super comfortable and done very well.
I would like to suggest adding the letter “s” to the letter “v”, i.e.scale.
To add to chord editing, scale editing in the same editor! Then it would be possible to add scale notes to the chord! Thank you.

BluGenes
KVRist
414 posts since 15 May, 2017

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:40 am

The blue popup or hover info for the new chord voicing editor.. I got to read it once, but, can't seem to get it back.

The editor looks very cool! But, need some insight on what the goal is for it's use.

magicmusic
KVRian
973 posts since 11 Nov, 2013

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:01 am

Hi Attila

when click on mastertrack it open now chord voicing editor too and 4 symbols on top to choose circle of fifth, keyboard input. thats good. but when click on the circle of fifths tab or chord from midi keyboard input then this symbols are not show. so there is no ways to jump to quick suggestion page back or keyboard input if in circle of fifths. I always need click outside the popup to close it and click on chord number again. I think it is even better when the icons are in all popups to jump to other popups. or what do you think ?. or because the other popups have not much entries, there can add buttons in this popup to jump to other.
For Bug report Purpose that developer see which system i use; win 10 64 1809 intel i5 8600K (6*3.6 GHZ) 16 GB Ram

xbitz
KVRAF
2288 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:55 am

IMO Chord Voicing / chord preview / using selected track (in this case it would phrase preview ...) would be handy and "Chord Selector" / for master track tab / Chord at ... should follow the background clicking on the Chord Voicing track
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KVRAF
3066 posts since 9 Jan, 2010

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:21 am

xbitz wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:55 am
IMO Chord Voicing / chord preview / using selected track would be handy and "Chord Selector" / for master track tab / Chord at ... should follow the background clicking on the Chord Voicing track
Good idea! :tu:

BTW I am fixing the bug you reported. Thanks for uploading the composition.
Needless to say the voicing editor was implemented based on your workflow suggestions.
So thanks, :)
Attila
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KVRAF
3066 posts since 9 Jan, 2010

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:24 am

magicmusic wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:01 am
I think it is even better when the icons are in all popups to jump to other popups. or what do you think ?. or because the other popups have not much entries, there can add buttons in this popup to jump to other.
Yes, good point, magicmusic. I was thinking about this too. I would be more logical to show all 5 icons above the chords and let the user select the active one.
Thanks,
Attila
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xbitz
KVRAF
2288 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:34 am

^^^ BTW Chord Selector window, do you know the x-ray feature of Sonar which makes the focused window semi-transparent and unclickable (can't be focused) to able to click things under it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t50JaQM9IvE
from 0:30, just because I'm using laptop and have to constantly open/close the Chord Selector window ... (workaround would be nice if the "Open Chord Selector" shortkey would be "Toggle Chord Selector" :)
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KVRAF
3066 posts since 9 Jan, 2010

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:33 am

BluGenes wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:40 am
The blue popup or hover info for the new chord voicing editor.. I got to read it once, but, can't seem to get it back.

The editor looks very cool! But, need some insight on what the goal is for it's use.
Right, it is shown only once, the first time you open the voicing editor. I will make a wiki page about it soon. The info was:

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Really, you can do lots of things very conveniently when working with chords:
- highlight green chord notes to include them in the chord voicing
- split and glue chords using right-click (here Shift+right click works if you want to leave the second chord when gluing)
- move the chord boundaries
- preview the chord with a single click on the background
- add and remove notes to the chord (Ctrl-click)

Thanks,
Attila
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KVRAF
3066 posts since 9 Jan, 2010

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:43 am

What is more, if you use the 'magnet' option on the master track, you can immediately see its effect in the voicing track:

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xbitz
KVRAF
2288 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:55 am

^^^
tip: try add chord extensions and enable/disabling them (with "- add and remove notes to the chord (Ctrl-click") with different inversions to able to achieve fluid chord-progressions, this kind of voice specif workflow was not possible before, with "Chord magnet" it's working beautifully to me (with ghosts too)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD3dd3p4_dU
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BluGenes
KVRist
414 posts since 15 May, 2017

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:43 pm

Ahh, OK, I see it now.. I was only seeing the root, 3rd and 5th. I missed the message.. the control click is important..

thanks!

xbitz
KVRAF
2288 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:50 pm

but ... question (trying to understand :) ), using ctrl+click "- add and remove notes to the chord (Ctrl-click)" why change the quality of the chord ?
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KVRAF
3066 posts since 9 Jan, 2010

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:35 pm

xbitz wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:50 pm
but ... question (trying to understand :) ), using ctrl+click "- add and remove notes to the chord (Ctrl-click)" why change the quality of the chord ?
I try to fix this today. When adding a note, RC looks for a new chord based on the pressed keys, not respecting the root note. Of course if you delete the root note, a new root will be found.
Thanks,
Attila

EDIT: this was actually a serious bug, update is expected in 1-2 days
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lulukom
KVRian
789 posts since 30 Nov, 2013

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:45 pm

Hi Attila!
Another new crash.
I cleaned and added notes on the chord voicing track ...
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