Motive Editor - Advanced Melody Composing Tools (Theoretically Correct Music Replies)

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jemsoo7
KVRer
7 posts since 6 Jan, 2017

Post Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:42 am

Manual Melody Creation Tools.

By having one phrase (say it motive or whatever!), and generating a musically correct "REPLY" based on Theories of Composition would be awesome!

I have been using this piece of software years back (now its free) . I don't know if this workflow is available or could be implemented in RC in the future!

http://www.palette-mct.com/download.html
What i like is that it goes one step further from the phrase, with the creation of motives - the building block of phrases (motive is defined on the site as: a group of notes around one up-beat / the smallest meaningful melody element).

[Well, phrases are then themselves building block of periods (antecedent/consequent) or its converse i.e phrase groups - this functionality is less important than motive developments in RC here. This is just a NAMING convention issue - no problem here!!]

motives->phrases->periods/phrase groups.

With one motive input/generated, a variation is created NEXT to the motive (usually one measure) based on the 24 variations available in the toolset for melody creation.

Among others the following variations exist:
Sequence up/down. New Rhythm. Repeat. Extraction. Turn over. Slightly vary Rhythm/Pitch. Arpeggio. Inversion. Ascending/Descending line. Ascending/Descending Wave. Caesura. [see attachment for details of them all]

My question. Can these variations be added in RC (A special menu just for MANUAL melody creation would be awesome) Or do they exist already (maybe by combining a few existing variations - i don't know?

The ULTIMATE palette for 'manual melody creation' would be to include the techniques proposed by Jonathan E. Peters in his 2 books: "Music Composition Vol1&2. e.g a button to generated a "replied" phrase that add "Tension/Retrograde/Mirror&Transposed Inversion etc, effect to it.

Here is the full manual with musical theories behind melody creation
http://www.palette-mct.com/manual_eng/t ... tents.html
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KVRAF
2896 posts since 9 Jan, 2010

Re: Motive Editor - Advanced Melody Composing Tools (Theoretically Correct Music Replies)

Post Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:28 am

I am happy you wrote about this topic. I was already thinking about a more advanced, and more interactive melody generator. While several variations are available for motive development, their usage is neither fast nor straightforward. So, a new interactive motive editor is among my short term plans. I added your input and screenshots to my to-do list item.
Thanks for your thoughts! :tu:
Attila
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jemsoo7
KVRer
7 posts since 6 Jan, 2017

Re: Motive Editor - Advanced Melody Composing Tools (Theoretically Correct Music Replies)

Post Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:40 am

Take your time! This was a suggestion for future use! You are already great responding so swift! i am a software developer too, i know how touch it is when you find all request as important and urgent (at least from the point of view of users)!!!

silenthill2006
KVRist
495 posts since 16 Nov, 2006

Re: Motive Editor - Advanced Melody Composing Tools (Theoretically Correct Music Replies)

Post Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:02 pm

musicdevelopments wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:28 am
I am happy you wrote about this topic. I was already thinking about a more advanced, and more interactive melody generator. While several variations are available for motive development, their usage is neither fast nor straightforward. So, a new interactive motive editor is among my short term plans. I added your input and screenshots to my to-do list item.
Thanks for your thoughts! :tu:
Attila
This makes me very happy. I already heavily use your software, but this feature would be incredible and would make composition even more faster. The only other thing I would love is a call and response option for the melody generator.
Software: Reason 10, Acid Pro 8, Reaper, Sibelius, Musescore, RapidComposer, Odesi

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