transposing all the notes in a chord into selected note range

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xbitz
KVRAF
2039 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Post Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:03 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqW3Vk5oKCg
from 3:36

can't see it's possible in RC so asking, can be all the notes of a track-chords transposed to a selected note range, for example if I'd like to use only one octave range in a track (or different playing ranges for bass, pads, leads, top leads etc. on top of each other) can be all the notes of the track-chords transposed to that octave range, same way as the pizmidi plugin

midiForceToRange - Transposes notes by octave into the selected range.

or harmony navigator working ?
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BluGenes
KVRist
337 posts since 15 May, 2017

Re: transposing all the notes in a chord into selected note range

Post Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:31 am

I'd say yes.. Either use a track variation for the track, or use the phrase dialog box. On the track, click the arrow at the top and add a transpose, for the phrase, it's located in the wrench tab of the inspector. You could also add a variation to the phrase as well. (kind of redundant)..

xbitz
KVRAF
2039 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Re: transposing all the notes in a chord into selected note range

Post Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:34 am

phew I've finally found how the voicing is working in v3.6(beta)+ so the voices can be managed to a note range ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfyXQKm1KlI
tricky RC, tricky RC ... almost gave up :P it's worth to create a video about it for sure, RC is brilliant
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KVRAF
2848 posts since 9 Jan, 2010

Re: transposing all the notes in a chord into selected note range

Post Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:27 am

I'll also move my reply here :)

Soon there will be an option to transpose chord notes into a range, and also a direct voicing editor is planned below the chords.
I am happier if people transpose the phrases, rather than the chords on the master track. The chords are just chords, each track may interpret the chords differently. Some of them may use only the bass note, some others may look up a guitar chord.
You can use the "Limit Note Range" variation applied to a track which forces notes within a range.

Thanks,
Attila
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KVRAF
2848 posts since 9 Jan, 2010

Re: transposing all the notes in a chord into selected note range

Post Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:30 am

Very cool and professional! :clap:

I am going to watch your video a few more times, to find out how the workflow could be improved.
I am sorry for the misleading note labels (Root, 3rd, 5th) which actually mean 'chord lowest note', 'chord second note', 'chord third note' but can be entirely different notes when voicing is used. E.g. when you omit the root note, the lowest note will still be displayed as 'Root' :( (Internally the modified chord will have the 3rd as the lowest note)

Thanks! :tu:
Attila
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xbitz
KVRAF
2039 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Re: transposing all the notes in a chord into selected note range

Post Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:52 am

yepp, as I see the "direct voicing editor" is the missing "link" :) , it should work from the main arranger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3xTCOUBoEw
from 1:10

normally creating chords/chord-progressions in any DAW is mainly try-and-error based, playing with different MIDI notes on top of each other which ones will be voices in some chord later, so creating chords from some notes also should be supported (as it's working from MIDI inputs just from the arranger) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra3jFFw0wGM
different chord palettes are less useful. Voicing so enabling-disabling different voices should be very easy, optimally the operation should take no more than one clicking (as it's working in Chord Composer)

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"I am sorry for the misleading note labels" should not worry about this :) it's ok RC has own workflow which has to be learnt and practiced and it's quite logical one (I know the note labels are only position indexes and are not connected to the voicing numbers)
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KVRAF
2848 posts since 9 Jan, 2010

Re: transposing all the notes in a chord into selected note range

Post Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:57 am

xbitz wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:52 am
yepp, as I see the "direct voicing editor" is the missing "link" :) , it should work from the main arranger
Yes, you are perfectly right! I handle this task as high priority, so you can expect a working visual voicing editor in a few weeks. I am not able to tell an exact deadline but your video opened my eyes :)
Attila
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xbitz
KVRAF
2039 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Re: transposing all the notes in a chord into selected note range

Post Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:05 am

not checked so sorry if they already exist, but I would also add different keyboard shortcuts which can change chord (given position on the master track ) harmonic functionality, extension, and able to alternate between those scales which were added in chord selector/ palette page so I would try drastically increase the chance of the happy accidents

if you know Liquid Notes ... that one is working exactly this way
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just it can't enable/disable the notes/voices of the source materials only can change the "master" chords properties (chord types, extension, functionality) and rebuild the depend tracks on the changes
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