Acon Digital Equalize 2

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stian
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852 posts since 1 Jan, 2005 from Norway

Post Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:45 am

4tune wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:32 am
-RMB solo works nicely except for a small issue: it seems to get stuck very occasionally, so that when you release the mouse button it remains enabled for a short while after. The headphones icon seems to respond quickly and switches off but the filtered audio still remains for about a second. Not a major issue but just causes a double-take.
(Windows 7 64bit)

-Also another small feature improvement that came to mind. It could be nice to have the mouse-wheel work on the scaling selection boxes (left and right of the main analyzer window) and even the Analyzer 1 and 2 dropdowns.
Thanks for the feedback! I've added entries for both the solo mode issue and the feature request in out tracking system and we'll try to address at least the solo mode issue in the next build.

Best,
Stian

4tune
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Re: Acon Digital Equalize 2

Post Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:11 am

Thanks Stian!

Just to add to the bug report, sometimes the solo mode gets fully stuck and not just for a second. A further click from the mouse is needed to clear/reset it then.

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stian
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Re: Acon Digital Equalize 2

Post Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:51 pm

4tune wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:11 am
Thanks Stian!

Just to add to the bug report, sometimes the solo mode gets fully stuck and not just for a second. A further click from the mouse is needed to clear/reset it then.
I see, thanks for the elaboration -- I'll look into it. :)

Best,
Stian

J1000
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6 posts since 4 Oct, 2010

Re: Acon Digital Equalize 2

Post Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:54 am

Imho, this plugin already overtook FF Pro-Q as the reference EQ. Still, there are few minor things to polish and improve:

- Knob for filter bandwidth shouldn't be linear, but exponential(ish). The default position (1.0) should be up at 12 o'clock. Most of the time you'll operate somewhere between 0.1 - 3. Lower values are cramped into very tiny knob range and it becomes rather unprecise.

- There should be an option in preferences to disable floating tooltip that shows filter parameters next to it's node while you move it. It seems graphically redudant since you already see parameters more clearly under the knobs.

- Option to automatically adjust gain knob sensitivity when you change working dynamic range. For example, when you work in 3dB or 6dB range, small knob movements produce big changes and it becomes too rough without using CTRL as a mouse modifier (which takes two hands and it's not practical for frequent usage). The same goes for mouse scroll-wheel action.

- Needs some kind of visual aid showing edges/handles of zoom tool under the graph. Maybe even some kind of scrollbar.

- I think that double-clicking the node should only disable/bypass it, not delete it. It seems easier to check on/off without using left hand to hold SHIFT. Shift could be used for something else, like inverting the filter or locking movement on horizontal axis.

Keep on the excellent work Acon Digital.

J1000
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Re: Acon Digital Equalize 2

Post Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:01 pm

...also, this is maybe a bug - resonance of shelf filters produces sharp notch/peak at low gains close to zero. It should proportionally flatten as gain is reduced.
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stian
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Re: Acon Digital Equalize 2

Post Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:28 pm

Hi!
J1000 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:54 am
Imho, this plugin already overtook FF Pro-Q as the reference EQ. Still, there are few minor things to polish and improve:
Thank you, I'm very glad to hear that!
J1000 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:54 am
- Knob for filter bandwidth shouldn't be linear, but exponential(ish). The default position (1.0) should be up at 12 o'clock. Most of the time you'll operate somewhere between 0.1 - 3. Lower values are cramped into very tiny knob range and it becomes rather unprecise.
Good point and very easy to fix -- I'll get this implemented ASAP.
J1000 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:54 am
- There should be an option in preferences to disable floating tooltip that shows filter parameters next to it's node while you move it. It seems graphically redudant since you already see parameters more clearly under the knobs.
Also an easy thing to add -- I've created an entry in our task tracker.
J1000 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:54 am
- Option to automatically adjust gain knob sensitivity when you change working dynamic range. For example, when you work in 3dB or 6dB range, small knob movements produce big changes and it becomes too rough without using CTRL as a mouse modifier (which takes two hands and it's not practical for frequent usage). The same goes for mouse scroll-wheel action.
I'm not quite sure I understood this one correctly. Do you mean that the knob sensitivity should be changed according to the amplitude view range in the equalizer curve?
J1000 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:54 am
- Needs some kind of visual aid showing edges/handles of zoom tool under the graph. Maybe even some kind of scrollbar.
Maybe we could add some kind of grip icons or similar to make it more obvious. I like the idea of keeping the UI uncluttered, so that's why there's no scrollbar. However, based on the user feedback so far, the current implementation could indeed be made more intuitive.
J1000 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:54 am
- I think that double-clicking the node should only disable/bypass it, not delete it. It seems easier to check on/off without using left hand to hold SHIFT. Shift could be used for something else, like inverting the filter or locking movement on horizontal axis.
This is actually something we are reconsidering at the moment. Currently, solo mode and bypass mode only applies to the current band. We have had a couple of requests for multiple bypassed bands.
J1000 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:54 am
Keep on the excellent work Acon Digital.
Thanks again! We'll do our best. :tu:

Best,
Stian

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stian
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Re: Acon Digital Equalize 2

Post Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:32 pm

J1000 wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:01 pm
...also, this is maybe a bug - resonance of shelf filters produces sharp notch/peak at low gains close to zero. It should proportionally flatten as gain is reduced.
This isn't actually a bug. I designed the EQ to use units that one can easily relate to. The resonance is specified in dB which turns into a fixed offset in logarithmic gain scale. I would like to keep dB as the unit. When moving the band handles in the curve, however, it would probably be possible to change the resonance value proportionally. That would be similar to how the gain - bandwidth link works now.

Best,
Stian

J1000
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Re: Acon Digital Equalize 2

Post Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:47 am

I'm not quite sure I understood this one correctly. Do you mean that the knob sensitivity should be changed according to the amplitude view range in the equalizer curve?
Exactly. Smaller the amplitude view range - finer the response of gain knob (both for click and scroll-wheel action).
Maybe we could add some kind of grip icons or similar to make it more obvious.
Grip icons would be totally fine.
The resonance is specified in dB which turns into a fixed offset in logarithmic gain scale. I would like to keep dB as the unit. When moving the band handles in the curve, however, it would probably be possible to change the resonance value proportionally.
Oh, I get it now. That could be the right solution.

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Regarding filter bypass... i think that most used functions should have the easiest and most intuitive controls. I guess that filter bypassing (single or multi) to check it's effect is essential function of an EQ. That's why it should have the simplest/quickest control, like double-click. SHIFT+click, or any other key combo, should be used for something non-essential.

You should also consider global bypass button. Although every DAW has it's own effect bypass, it's good to have one internally.

Cheers,

Jovan

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stian
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Re: Acon Digital Equalize 2

Post Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:46 pm

Hi!

I'm sorry, apparently I forgot to answer your post...
4tune wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:32 am
-RMB solo works nicely except for a small issue: it seems to get stuck very occasionally, so that when you release the mouse button it remains enabled for a short while after. The headphones icon seems to respond quickly and switches off but the filtered audio still remains for about a second. Not a major issue but just causes a double-take.
(Windows 7 64bit)
Thanks, we've received similar reports and we're looking into it.
4tune wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:32 am
-Also another small feature improvement that came to mind. It could be nice to have the mouse-wheel work on the scaling selection boxes (left and right of the main analyzer window) and even the Analyzer 1 and 2 dropdowns.
Thanks, I've added that request to the tracking system. Seems like a good idea. I guess it should be standard behaviour for all combo boxes if we implement it.

Best,
Stian

4tune
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867 posts since 7 Nov, 2003

Re: Acon Digital Equalize 2

Post Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:10 am

Thanks Stian,

appreciate your responsiveness on suggestions here! (even if just in consideration)

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