Mouse shorcuts?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 919 posts since 4 Jan, 2007
I started using the Acustica editor recently. I have my muscle memory ingrained to do:
-scrolling horizontally: mousewheel.
-zooming horizontally: ctrl + mousewheel.
-scrolling vertically: horizontal-wheel (using a Logitech MX Master 2s).
-zooming vertically: ctrl + horizontal-wheel
Is there a way to change those navigation shortcuts? The defaults are very unergonomic for me, especially scrolling vertically with shift + mousewheel.
-scrolling horizontally: mousewheel.
-zooming horizontally: ctrl + mousewheel.
-scrolling vertically: horizontal-wheel (using a Logitech MX Master 2s).
-zooming vertically: ctrl + horizontal-wheel
Is there a way to change those navigation shortcuts? The defaults are very unergonomic for me, especially scrolling vertically with shift + mousewheel.
- KVRian
- 1466 posts since 1 Jan, 2005 from Norway
Unfortunately, the mouse interaction cannot be modified. I'm not sure it it's a good idea to add this either as it will probably be error prone and make support a bit of a nightmare.
Best,
Stian
Best,
Stian
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 919 posts since 4 Jan, 2007
I fail to see how having the user change some of the mouse shortcuts (program ergonomics) to its taste could be a bad idea (ignoring how hard/time consuming is to do on your codebase).
Usually on a program that has a main work area that can scroll, the scroll wheel does so. If the program is vertically oriented it scrolls vertically and vice versa. Some of them zoom with "ctrl + scroll" too, like the web browser you are using now to read this. This is an established standard on regular programs that I use all day (I'm a dev too), especially the scrolling, that I try my audio apps to follow.
In my case I use Reaper and this is how it works. It allows changing mouse modifiers but if I remember correctly at least the scrolling defaults were these (and if a program has insane defaults, it is Reaper). I use Acustica as my audio editor on Reaper, so when jumping to Acustica from Reaper I get constantly annoyed by me constantly forgetting the different mouse command set and zooming unwantedly. I have it ingrained on my muscle memory.
Not having configurable mouse settings makes my second (horizontal) scroll wheel useless too.
I can kind of imagine why the default for the scroll wheel is zooming if we suppose that the most used action on an audio editor for most people is zooming. I honestly don't know. In my case I set the zoom to a reasonable level and then I scroll more than I zoom.
With regards to support being a nightmare because of this, I'm not sure that I follow, I guess that people that cares about setting its shortcuts remembers they have customized the program and act accordingly, but it is support, weird things happen in unpredictable ways
Anyways, these are my arguments for this FR.
Usually on a program that has a main work area that can scroll, the scroll wheel does so. If the program is vertically oriented it scrolls vertically and vice versa. Some of them zoom with "ctrl + scroll" too, like the web browser you are using now to read this. This is an established standard on regular programs that I use all day (I'm a dev too), especially the scrolling, that I try my audio apps to follow.
In my case I use Reaper and this is how it works. It allows changing mouse modifiers but if I remember correctly at least the scrolling defaults were these (and if a program has insane defaults, it is Reaper). I use Acustica as my audio editor on Reaper, so when jumping to Acustica from Reaper I get constantly annoyed by me constantly forgetting the different mouse command set and zooming unwantedly. I have it ingrained on my muscle memory.
Not having configurable mouse settings makes my second (horizontal) scroll wheel useless too.
I can kind of imagine why the default for the scroll wheel is zooming if we suppose that the most used action on an audio editor for most people is zooming. I honestly don't know. In my case I set the zoom to a reasonable level and then I scroll more than I zoom.
With regards to support being a nightmare because of this, I'm not sure that I follow, I guess that people that cares about setting its shortcuts remembers they have customized the program and act accordingly, but it is support, weird things happen in unpredictable ways
Anyways, these are my arguments for this FR.
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- KVRian
- 912 posts since 3 Feb, 2015 from UK
In Reaper's arrange area and midi editor, by default, the mousewheel zooms horizontally at the cursor position. I usually change this to zoom at mouse position, and lately to vertical scroll to avoid confusing a Cubase using friend...
I agree that it would be nice to be able to change shortcut keys in Acoustica, but not as a priority when there are other areas that could be improved first (e.g. better loop editing, which I believe (from another thread) is in the pipeline).
I agree that it would be nice to be able to change shortcut keys in Acoustica, but not as a priority when there are other areas that could be improved first (e.g. better loop editing, which I believe (from another thread) is in the pipeline).