Catalina Compatibility

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eagle-patriot
KVRist
31 posts since 22 Nov, 2014

Post Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:53 pm

I just did a forum search for any news on MacOS Catalina compatibility and found only one result with the term. Does anyone know what the outlook is for Waveform compatibility in Catalina? As a DAW user I'm used to waiting awhile before installing a major OS update, but I'm always interested to know who anticipated it and set themselves up for success. I'm sure scrappy little plugin devs will be the last to fall in line, given their general lack of resources. Any word of what to expect from that world? Is Juce in good shape to help those devs that use the framework?

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chico.co.uk
KVRAF
2317 posts since 17 Jun, 2003

Re: Catalina Compatibility

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:56 am

I'm avoiding it like the plague for the time being, personally. Almost all the plugins i use, the companies have sent emails saying don't upgrade to Catalina, for the love of god, don't, nothing will ever work again.

So i'm going down that route, personally ...
"my gosh it's a friggin hardware"

chico.co.uk
KVRAF
2317 posts since 17 Jun, 2003

Re: Catalina Compatibility

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:59 am

eg, Soundtoys, Waves, Steven Slate, Native Instruments, Plugin Alliance, Melda etc have all said don't go anywhere near Catalina, till hell freezes over
"my gosh it's a friggin hardware"

FigBug
KVRist
380 posts since 3 May, 2005 from Victoria, BC

Re: Catalina Compatibility

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:03 am

We have the new hardened runtime and notarization process in place for Waveform. I've tested on the Catalina beta and it is working. I have not tested with a large collection of plugins. I advise holding off as well.

chico.co.uk
KVRAF
2317 posts since 17 Jun, 2003

Re: Catalina Compatibility

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:17 am

Three more emails today, from AKAI, Air plugins and Eventide, saying Catalina is a no no
"my gosh it's a friggin hardware"

jonljacobi
KVRian
1185 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA

Re: Catalina Compatibility

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:20 am

FigBug wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:03 am
We have the new hardened runtime and notarization process in place for Waveform. I've tested on the Catalina beta and it is working. I have not tested with a large collection of plugins. I advise holding off as well.
I love the computer industry. There was great debate back in the day about allowing anyone to "push" data onto your computer (ActiveX, then cookies, then...) as it would (and has) generate atrocious security issues. But in the cult of convenience, the idea of course won out, and here we are.

jonljacobi
KVRian
1185 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA

Re: Catalina Compatibility

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:21 am

And I'm getting emails up the wazoo as well. Sigh.

carllackey
KVRist
266 posts since 7 May, 2009

Re: Catalina Compatibility

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:06 pm

and now i'm glad i switched to windows!! (until their next big update! lol!)

netsvetaev
KVRist
69 posts since 12 Feb, 2017

Re: Catalina Compatibility

Post Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:02 am

I'm on Catalina beta now. Don't see any new problems, but old ones :-)

FigBug
KVRist
380 posts since 3 May, 2005 from Victoria, BC

Re: Catalina Compatibility

Post Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:12 pm

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I am seeing this error for a few plugins. You are supposed to be able to approve the plugin in Settings > Privacy & Security, but it doesn't appear to be doing anything.

Running the command `xattr -d com.apple.quarantine SpectrumAnalyzer.vst/` will allow the plugin to load.

fde101
KVRist
148 posts since 16 Mar, 2017

Re: Catalina Compatibility

Post Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:36 am

FigBug wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:12 pm
I am seeing this error for a few plugins. You are supposed to be able to approve the plugin in Settings > Privacy & Security, but it doesn't appear to be doing anything.
Make sure the panel is unlocked (lock button along the bottom). If it is anything like the case with some drivers and the like under other recent MacOS versions, the button is enabled even with the panel locked, but it doesn't actually do anything unless you unlock the panel first. MacOS is still WAY ahead of M$, but they have admittedly slipped a fair bit since they lost Steve Jobs, and this button being enabled when the functionality is locked is a solid example of that.

fde101
KVRist
148 posts since 16 Mar, 2017

Re: Catalina Compatibility

Post Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:20 am

Also, there is another cause for that behavior I had forgotten until I ran into it again just last night: if you are using a remote access solution or a pointing device that functions through an accessibility interface (such as a Wacom tablet) as opposed to a "normal" mouse or trackpad directly connected to the computer, that button will similarly give that same behavior.

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