Is this plugin dead?

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SiliconDeath
KVRist
274 posts since 21 Feb, 2017

Post Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:39 am

I seem to see topics saying this plugin is dead. Is it not worth getting then? The demo version at least seems to work fine. Is it only the full version that is bugged?

I'm asking because this arp seems to have really full feature set, much more so than cthulhu (with which I've had many struggles, and wish to replace with something else). I wish to replace cthhlulu, and Kirnu Cream seems to be a prime contender (I haven't seen other arps with this good feature set, maybe BlueARP but its GUI is confusing).

gammastar
KVRer
4 posts since 11 Jul, 2010 from uk

Post Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:50 pm

It's so far dead.. everyone hopes otherwise.. but not so much as a post here for years :( buy at risk.

kcirius
KVRer
3 posts since 7 Jan, 2012

Post Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:44 pm

any chance of someone uploading the free old version to a hosting so we can have it again ?
please

wnick
KVRer
16 posts since 30 Aug, 2003 from Germany

Post Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:57 am

hi
I had a problem with Cream and REAPER and Arto from Kirnu fixed the problem in less than 24h!
That's support!!!
IMHO Cream is still the most powerful arp on the market.
Wolfgang

twoodts
KVRer
15 posts since 11 Dec, 2015

Post Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:34 am

wnick wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:57 am
I had a problem with Cream and REAPER and Arto from Kirnu fixed the problem in less than 24h!
What year was this? Was it a problem on your end or with the plugin itself?
There hasn't been any updates to the plugin in 5(?) years...

mabian
KVRAF
1837 posts since 10 Jan, 2005

Post Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:58 pm

wnick wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:57 am
hi
I had a problem with Cream and REAPER and Arto from Kirnu fixed the problem in less than 24h!
That's support!!!
IMHO Cream is still the most powerful arp on the market.
Wolfgang
So what's the latest version and how can it be downloaded?
Thanks!

- Mario

wnick
KVRer
16 posts since 30 Aug, 2003 from Germany

Post Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:55 pm

twoodts wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:34 am
wnick wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:57 am
I had a problem with Cream and REAPER and Arto from Kirnu fixed the problem in less than 24h!
What year was this? Was it a problem on your end or with the plugin itself?
There hasn't been any updates to the plugin in 5(?) years...
It was 3 days ago. I had a problem with the multithread support of Cream in REAPER.
Now everything is fine. The version still says 1.2.4

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mesamask
KVRer
6 posts since 20 Nov, 2013

Post Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:13 pm

There's an update to version 1.2.5 available via PluginBoutique.
Couldn't find a changelog or any other info. After installing the plugin says it's still version 1.2.4

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Hmmm... :shrug:

mabian
KVRAF
1837 posts since 10 Jan, 2005

Post Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:24 pm

... and in the meanwhile Kirnu is announcing a new IOS synth in the works on Facebook (can't find the link now)...

Other official sources have nothing about recent updates to Cream.
But... the download link (I haven't bought it through Plugin Boutique) brings a "Cream_1.2" installer updated on august 2020.

No changelog though.

- Mario

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mesamask
KVRer
6 posts since 20 Nov, 2013

Post Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:05 am

mabian wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:24 pm
... a "Cream_1.2" installer updated on august 2020.
Have you managed to actually update the plugin?
My installer is a "Cream Installer" from 10th of August 2020, productversion 1.2, fileversion 0.0.0.0 (lol), 2,01 MB
The installer seems to be new, but again, the plugin itself doesn't seem to be updated.

mabian
KVRAF
1837 posts since 10 Jan, 2005

Post Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:19 am

Just tried, the plugin about window still shows 1.2.4 at 2013, exactly like your screenshot.
But the DLL date is actually august, 10th, 2020.

Another poorly managed update, hidden and with no clear trace of changes.

For sure I'm going to steer away from any future Kirnu product...

- Mario

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mesamask
KVRer
6 posts since 20 Nov, 2013

Post Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:28 am

thanks for the info

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Kirnu
KVRist
243 posts since 12 Jan, 2013

Post Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:08 am

I'm updating the plugin regularly when ever someone finds bug in it. I haven't changed the version number but there have been improvements to the plugin latest being fixing the Cubase looping problem in Cubase 10 and multi threading bug fix.

If you have any problems or questions please follow instructions found in here:
viewtopic.php?f=229&t=507677

The post Mabian mentioned is this: https://twitter.com/KirnuArp/status/1301860159053066243

Peace.
-Arto

mabian
KVRAF
1837 posts since 10 Jan, 2005

Post Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:13 am

Thanks for the information and the reminder on the best way to contact you, Arto.

I hope you won't bother for some humble suggestions on how to avoid this kind of unpleasant threads in the future:

- Updating the plugin without any version change nor public announcements nor changelogs for sure feec a feeling of discontinuation, even though there's actually still focus on it; it's all about communication and perception you know :)

- Answering after more than 3 months (!) here, that I understand is the official forum (!!) doesn't help either.

Maybe this forum should better be closed and your support channel be only the one mentioned in the thread you pointed to?
Nothing personal, really, just a little bit of bad feelings about it.

Peace,
Mario

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