Which modular environment can do this?

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Jedinhopy
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846 posts since 20 May, 2010

Post Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:27 pm

The polyphonic velocity from (MIDI CHANNEL 2) chooses the velocity sample on (MIDI CHANNEL 1).

The polyphonic velocity on (MIDI CHANNEL 1) only multiplies the volume of the sample on (MIDI CHANNEL 1).

deastman
KVRAF
6791 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area

Re: Which modular environment can do this?

Post Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:42 pm

I reckon MaxMSP could do that easily enough.
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Jedinhopy
KVRian
846 posts since 20 May, 2010

Re: Which modular environment can do this?

Post Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:06 pm

deastman wrote:I reckon MaxMSP could do that easily enough.
The MIDI standard or the VST standard is too limited.

deastman
KVRAF
6791 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area

Re: Which modular environment can do this?

Post Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:38 pm

What do the MIDI and VST standards have to do with it? We're talking about a MIDI processor here... something that receives MIDI notes and velocity, and sends it back out. No big deal.
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whyterabbyt
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26225 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair

Re: Which modular environment can do this?

Post Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:33 am

deastman wrote:What do the MIDI and VST standards have to do with it?
Nothing, its just the usual jedinhopy 'reject all help and suggestions with a nonsequitur' nonsense.
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Jedinhopy
KVRian
846 posts since 20 May, 2010

Re: Which modular environment can do this?

Post Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:45 am

whyterabbyt wrote:
deastman wrote:What do the MIDI and VST standards have to do with it?
Nothing, its just the usual jedinhopy 'reject all help and suggestions with a nonsequitur' nonsense.
Should you say because this is impossible to do polyphonically in kontakt and reaktor.

A monophonic variant might be possible in the REAKTOR environment, but then i can't have long decaying notes that overlap into each other polyphonically.

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ew
KVRAF
9115 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Pequot Lakes, MN

Re: Which modular environment can do this?

Post Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:43 am

Jedinhopy wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
deastman wrote:What do the MIDI and VST standards have to do with it?
Nothing, its just the usual jedinhopy 'reject all help and suggestions with a nonsequitur' nonsense.
Should you say because this is impossible to do polyphonically in kontakt and reaktor.

A monophonic variant might be possible in the REAKTOR environment, but then i can't have long decaying notes that overlap into each other polyphonically.
?

There's no reason why you couldn't make a polyphonic version in Reaktor using multiple voice
modules. Where it might get iffy is translating the channel values; channel info modules *might* work here, but I'm not certain.

ew
A spectral heretic...

Jedinhopy
KVRian
846 posts since 20 May, 2010

Re: Which modular environment can do this?

Post Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:02 pm

And with REAKTOR, this is impossible too because polyphony handling is totally random and unique for every voice and midi channel + port.
And for 100 voices polyphony. You need 100 (from voice) modules + 100 (to voice) modules.
100 instrument inputs and outputs + 100 macro inputs and outputs.

Beyond the:
(No more In-Terminals in this module allowed.) .


And even then if there was no module amount limitation.
Then it easily would overload the CPU meter.
So it would be impossible to do nonetheless. Specifically when having a very high polyphony count.
9999 voices polyphony in this case.

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ew
KVRAF
9115 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Pequot Lakes, MN

Re: Which modular environment can do this?

Post Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:59 pm

Which raises the question- why in the hell would you need to do that in the first place?

ew
A spectral heretic...

Jedinhopy
KVRian
846 posts since 20 May, 2010

Re: Which modular environment can do this?

Post Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:41 am

ew wrote:Which raises the question- why in the hell would you need to do that in the first place?

ew
It is for a synthetic sample ibrary that i am trying to create.

CinningBao
KVRAF
1783 posts since 15 Apr, 2004 from Capital City, UK

Re: Which modular environment can do this?

Post Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:41 am

I know you've got Bidule - have you protoyped it in that?
Until you report back and say it cannot be done in Bidule, you ain't gonna get much help here

Jedinhopy
KVRian
846 posts since 20 May, 2010

Re: Which modular environment can do this?

Post Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:10 pm

CinningBao wrote:I know you've got Bidule - have you protoyped it in that?
Until you report back and say it cannot be done in Bidule, you ain't gonna get much help here
I have the wave samples ready.

CinningBao
KVRAF
1783 posts since 15 Apr, 2004 from Capital City, UK

Re: Which modular environment can do this?

Post Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:41 am

Have you prototyped it in Bidule yet? I'm pretty sure you could build 1 octave of whatever-this-thing-is

Jedinhopy
KVRian
846 posts since 20 May, 2010

Re: Which modular environment can do this?

Post Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:18 am

Bidule is not as easy to use as Reaktor.

yellowmix
KVRian
736 posts since 11 Aug, 2012

Re: Which modular environment can do this?

Post Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:38 am

ReaScript.

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