SupaTrigga REQUESTS and BUGS thread

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Bram
KVRist
257 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from Germany

Post Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:13 am

OK.

requests and bugs, let me have it!

Features I will definatly add in a new release
  • midi control over everything
  • An option (or 3) to prevent silence/reverse/slow speed to happen on the straight beat to keep the 4-to-the-floor feel
  • some kind of amplitude envelope per slice
  • variable bit-crunching and samplerate reduction per slice :) (thx wakax!)
  • dry-wet mix or only output 'rearranged slices'
  • new version should have a minimum of 4 slices per measure.
  • presets
  • random panning per slice
Features I will have to think about (i.e. I like these, but they aren't too easy ;) )
  • pitching up/different (linear pitch down, tempo synched slow speed, start pitch<->target pitch)
  • GUI (hard to do right for this effect, ...)
  • Tempo synched slow speed (half speed, quarter, 3/8 etc...)
  • some way of getting mixed measures (for ex. 1/4 and 1/8 chops in the same measure)
  • an option to force slices to be picked from the past when slow or reverse is instantly triggered (right now only 'rearranged slices' can be reversed or retriggered, which is sometimes confusing...)
  • a few filters in parallel to which slices are routed (i.e. probability of X that slice goes to HP, probability of Y that it goes to HP, Z that it bypasses the filters) (thx Timbre for the idea)
  • support different timesigs?
  • dotted slices (triplets), needs an allmost complete rewrite :(
Features I will never add
  • multi I/O, too many hosts behave funkie with multiple IO
bugs
  • at VERY high BPM counts the internal sequencer isn't randomized each and every measure
  • when instant-whatever is turned on, it sometimes produces clicks (note-to-self: try w/ sinewaves)
  • weird bug on on thehumanPlugin's dual mac (*sigh*)


- bram
Last edited by Bram on Thu Jun 26, 2003 9:12 pm, edited 15 times in total.

putte
TopModernGeezer
2641 posts since 14 Mar, 2001 from Stuttgart, Germany

Post Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:40 am

no bugs here so far (os9.2.2, logic 6.1), but buckets full of joy. :oops:

feature requests:

- some 1/16, 1/8 etc. quantise-functions. Topcool would be if they could be set to "random" as well ... hehe. (best would be if they could be automated as well)

- an overall pitch function to pitch the whole thing would be also nice.
(for example to get these superslick fitzifitz-beats when pitched really high)



cheers master bram
putte

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KVRian
568 posts since 18 Apr, 2002 from Nu Earth

Post Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:47 am

Bram, awesome plugin! most fun i've had in a loooong time and so much more to try it on!

My request would be midi key activation of the instant chop/rev/stop functions... :D

Great work..easily my favourite plugin!

THANKYOU!

btw tested in Mac OS 9.2.2 and 10.2.5 (VST 5.2pb1/SX 1.06)

Bram
KVRist
257 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from Germany

Post Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:50 am

putte, I don't really understand what you mean by saying
'1/16' '1/8' etc quantise?
Isn't that exactly what the number of slices is??


- bram

Catspad
KVRer
5 posts since 17 Feb, 2003 from Kent, UK

Post Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:55 am

A nice GUI so that I can read what each of the parameters are when using in Orion Pro !! :D
Thanks
Ian
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putte
TopModernGeezer
2641 posts since 14 Mar, 2001 from Stuttgart, Germany

Post Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:58 am

Bram wrote:putte, I don't really understand what you mean by saying
'1/16' '1/8' etc quantise?
Isn't that exactly what the number of slices is??


:roll: .... hmmm, i thought about that too. :hihi:
Okay - then i now say thanks for implementing it! ha!
:D

putte
(tired and silly)

Al Magnifico
KVRist
108 posts since 16 Jan, 2003 from Dresden, Germany

Post Thu Jun 26, 2003 2:03 am

HI

This plug really rocks, instant breakbeat fun!
Some suggestions:
An option (or 3) to prevent silence/reverse/slow speed to happen on the straight beat to keep the 4-to-the-floor feel
Tempo synched slow speed (half speed, quarter, 3/8 etc...)

And Bram, Samplitude sends tempo and time information to the plugins, all tempo synched plugs and also fruity loops vsti work fine, so that cannot be the reason that it doesn't work. Anyway, I have to beg Volker from Magix to fix it...

Bye

Roman Empire
KVRian
849 posts since 1 Apr, 2002 from Spain

Post Thu Jun 26, 2003 11:12 am

Hi!

I found a bug, unfortunately :(

I really am looking forward to try this plugin out, but haven´t succeeded yet. Every time I attempt to do so, it crashes cubase (5.1 is what I´m using, on win98):
As an insert efx, it crashes when turning it on from the mixer.
As a send efx, it crashes when starting to play something through it.
The crash is the same in both cases: I get that "A serious problem have occured" dialogue that cubase generates = the machine doesn´t crash, but cubase does.
Best Regards

Roman Empire

jdg
KVRist
381 posts since 13 Mar, 2002 from purple

Post Thu Jun 26, 2003 11:16 am

i know what puttputt means:

you know how you sets the chops/beat.. to like 4 chops 8 chops etc?

how bout making it more like a quanitize feature where some chops will be chopped at 1/4 or 1/8 or a dotted 1/8th.. then have it be able to chop up different durations for one loop instead of it being fixed to the 4/8/16/etc...

i would love it to chop 1/4 triplets for the last 4 beats of an 8beat loop. :D

i'll hopefully have time this weekend and go through it well with cubaseSX
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Bram
KVRist
257 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from Germany

Post Thu Jun 26, 2003 11:33 am

roman empire: can you be more specific or elaborate more?
what kind of measure/bpm settings?
what exact version of cubase?
have you tried OTHER hosts, does that work?
if possible try it w/ supatrigga as the ONLY loaded VST plugin.
if possible, try to load it w/ supatrigga as the only VST plugin in your PLUGINS DIRECTORY.


heheh, someone needs to teach you KVR-people how to submit propper bug reports ;) ;)


- bram

dcc
KVRer
1 posts since 26 Jun, 2003

Post Thu Jun 26, 2003 11:57 am

Supatrigga = lots of fun!

Is there any way to do a wet/dry mix (or really I guess it would be to only outputs slices which were modified)? I'd like to have just the effected slice panned left or right with a dry track.

Ok - here is a greedy one. Is there any way to feed it two signals and use probabilities to determine which one (or both) would get output?

Here are a couple possible bugs:

- When the "rearrange prob" is set to 0 the other sliders seem to have no effect. Is this by design?

- When the granularity is set to 2 slices / measure "reverse" and "rearrange" don't have any effect unless "repeat" is cranked up.

Thanks!!! Dan

Kerrydan
KVRist
75 posts since 3 Jul, 2002 from Winnipeg, Canada

Post Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:29 pm

I would like to see preset banks, so I could save my favourite crazy SupaTrigger settings for later. Is that possible without a GUI?
-K
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KVRAF
1651 posts since 14 May, 2002 from Earth

Post Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:02 pm

Just a quick though, pHATmatik has the PERFECT gui for something like SupaTrigga. I'd take a good look at it and maybe even find some good ideas for funtionality :)
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patchworkcat
KVRist
158 posts since 1 Oct, 2002

Post Thu Jun 26, 2003 3:34 pm

Just one thing- as well as the speed I'd like to be able to determine a pitch(%) to slow down to, instead of just 0%. Come to think of it maybe more than 100%, speeding up in other words?

thehumanPlugin
KVRist
42 posts since 1 Jul, 2002 from Maryland

Post Thu Jun 26, 2003 4:18 pm

Hey Bram!!!

OK first and foremost this is THE GREATEST plugin to come out in a long time. Also Ivan is crazy:) - a lot to master at once but it will be rewarding with time given.

Bug:
MAC OS 9.2- Dual1ghz
CubaseVST/32 5.1 r2 pb1

When I play one channel and have supa on its insert, it works fine.
If I put it in on a second channel and its insert and play both tracks I get bad clicks. (though some people might like this) :)

like this:
http://www.kingrhythm.com/rho.MP3

So basically I can only use one of these on a song at a time:(

Weird thing:
If I mixer-mute the second track, just to cease the audio, not the midi events, the first track still clicks. The only way to get it to stop clicking is to mute the midi notes.

By the way, nothing instant is on

I hope this helps!!!

If you need further info, PLEASE ask!

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