What about MSEG modulator in Bitwig ?

Official support for: bitwig.com
KVRAF
3150 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Post Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:21 am

double
Last edited by xbitz on Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:36 am, edited 1 time in total.
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

KVRAF
3150 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Post Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:24 am

liquidsound wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:29 am
xbitz wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:56 am
Shade (new UVI creative filter) has also has good one
Image
so there is a place for possibilities here

ps. (fyi it's on intro sale now, https://www.uvi.net/en/effects/shade.html till Oct 31)
No luck... ilok.
don't have a problem with it bought a https://www.nordic-digital.com/en/acces ... te-sl-7417 hub takes one slot portable can't lose serials, easy to reinstall the plugins have to activate once etc. and done
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

User avatar
KVRAF
18486 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Post Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:37 am

liquidsound wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:29 am
xbitz wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:56 am
Shade (new UVI creative filter) has also has good one
Image
so there is a place for possibilities here

ps. (fyi it's on intro sale now, https://www.uvi.net/en/effects/shade.html till Oct 31)
No luck... ilok.
I wont use ilok either...

KVRAF
3150 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Post Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:16 am

^^^ I'm not a product promoter don't care :D just demoed by Protoculture https://www.sonicacademy.com/tutors/protoculture this where I've seen it
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

KVRAF
3150 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Post Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:26 am

back to the original topic, IMO pattern selection in MSEGs is also a good idea in IL products like it
Image
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

KVRAF
3297 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth

Post Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:30 am

Diva - Dune - Omnisphere - Serum - Spire

KVRer
10 posts since 16 Sep, 2019

Post Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:02 am

+1 for mseg, Tantra has some cool features such as shuffle.

KVRist
386 posts since 4 Nov, 2011 from Tleat

Post Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:23 am

xbitz wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:26 am
back to the original topic, IMO pattern selection in MSEGs is also a good idea in IL products like it
It really baffles me why developers cripple their creations by not including any way to store/recall presets/patterns within a patch.
Brzzzzzzt.

KVRist
190 posts since 21 Feb, 2012

Post Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:17 am

Yes that would be great we need that instead of using 3rd party plugins.
There isn't any LFO or ENV that we can customize. only the polynom will do that
in strange way which I don't like.

Recently BW implemented Grid's steps the "Interpolation" mode. but at first I excepted that
there is a customizable curve, but unfortunately not yet.


As xbitz said the new "UVI Shade" has MSEG device, which is powerful & has initial workflow, I like how smooth it is visually & auditory similar to Live's M4L shaper.

One freeform shaper device could do any kind of modulation functions
(LFO, ENV, Rhythmizer etc,,,)

MSEG with freeform shape is definitely needed +1 :tu:

BW please make this dream come true :pray:
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
KVRist
209 posts since 30 Aug, 2011 from Melbourne, Vic, Australia

Post Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:06 am

Can't remember if I posted earlier in this thread or not, but I wont be renewing my upgrade plan until I see an MSEG alongside a few other key missing features for me. Maybe I'll be waiting a while, I don't know and don't really care much for what's been added in the recent betas.
A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules, often with the assistance of unsuspecting musicians. - FZ

KVRer
25 posts since 14 Oct, 2013 from Taiwan

Post Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:04 am

Teezdalien wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:06 am
Can't remember if I posted earlier in this thread or not, but I wont be renewing my upgrade plan until I see an MSEG alongside a few other key missing features for me. Maybe I'll be waiting a while, I don't know and don't really care much for what's been added in the recent betas.
Same here. There are so many other companies (Xfer, Arturia, HY-Plugin, ToneBooster, and now UVI) having built-in MSEG in there plugins nowadays which should imply it’s not an excessive demand to make.

KVRAF
1709 posts since 20 Oct, 2014

Post Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:09 am

I totally miss a flexible MSEG in Bitwig, too. If that was available I wouldn't also need ADSR or so anymore, one cleverly designed module instead. Also the MSEG shouldn't have only statical segments over time, but instead each point's value + length should be modulatable. With the line/bend features of the normal automation.

User avatar
KVRAF
32367 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:49 am

It's a strange omission really, considering how modulation focused Bitwig is on the whole. I can't understand why this wasn't added by now.

KVRAF
3150 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Post Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:11 am

^^^ Voltage2 also hasn't got, Gatekeeper is the most usable modulator in it :D also strange
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxjxh_ZNgmg
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

User avatar
KVRian
1128 posts since 31 Mar, 2014

Post Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:10 pm

What about the Massive X performer? It has multiple patterns (switchable via keys), it also let's you paint in those exponentially stretched rhythms + has multiple parametric segment waveforms.

What also might be interesting is something like u-he Zane's/-lettes waveform editor (but driven by a Grid phase input and used as a MSEG). There the points and segments of a waveform also can be morphed seamlessly.

Return to “Bitwig”