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Browser tree navigation (with added pictures!)
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1031 posts since 17 Jan, 2005 from London
I have searched the Shortcuts in Settings but haven't found anything.
I am trying to find the keystroke that will jump the cursor in the browser tree to the parent node. Once at the parent node one can press <enter> to collapse or expand the node, but when one has scrolled through a large number of child nodes, it's a bit of a pain to have to cursor up repeatedly to reach the parent node. I'm sure there must be a single shortcut to do this but I cannot figure out what it is.
I am trying to find the keystroke that will jump the cursor in the browser tree to the parent node. Once at the parent node one can press <enter> to collapse or expand the node, but when one has scrolled through a large number of child nodes, it's a bit of a pain to have to cursor up repeatedly to reach the parent node. I'm sure there must be a single shortcut to do this but I cannot figure out what it is.
Last edited by carlca on Tue May 21, 2019 6:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Bitwig 5.1.6 + Akai MIDIMix + Launchpad X + MuLab 9.3.18
Roli Lumi Keyboard x 2 + Universal Audio Apollo Twin X
Mac Mini M1 16GB/4TB + macOS 14.4 Sonoma
Roli Lumi Keyboard x 2 + Universal Audio Apollo Twin X
Mac Mini M1 16GB/4TB + macOS 14.4 Sonoma
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1031 posts since 17 Jan, 2005 from London
Okay, after a disappointing response to my question, I have decided to enhance the question with a picture!
How do I get from the highlighted entry in the list (Riemann Techno Perc Loops) to the parent node (Loops [WAV]) with just one keystroke? Is it even possible?
How do I get from the highlighted entry in the list (Riemann Techno Perc Loops) to the parent node (Loops [WAV]) with just one keystroke? Is it even possible?
Bitwig 5.1.6 + Akai MIDIMix + Launchpad X + MuLab 9.3.18
Roli Lumi Keyboard x 2 + Universal Audio Apollo Twin X
Mac Mini M1 16GB/4TB + macOS 14.4 Sonoma
Roli Lumi Keyboard x 2 + Universal Audio Apollo Twin X
Mac Mini M1 16GB/4TB + macOS 14.4 Sonoma
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- KVRist
- 401 posts since 27 Mar, 2019 from stuck in Russia
Just by hitting Tab? that's how it works most of the time in such scenarios
EDIT: Use tab to jump from search field to lower section where you browse Location, then use Left or Right arrows to get to file list and back
EDIT: Use tab to jump from search field to lower section where you browse Location, then use Left or Right arrows to get to file list and back
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1031 posts since 17 Jan, 2005 from London
A reasonable answer, but sadly not the answer to the question I asked. I already knew about the tab key to get to the list below. I was asking how to get to the parent node. I don't know how to make it any clearer than that.
Bitwig 5.1.6 + Akai MIDIMix + Launchpad X + MuLab 9.3.18
Roli Lumi Keyboard x 2 + Universal Audio Apollo Twin X
Mac Mini M1 16GB/4TB + macOS 14.4 Sonoma
Roli Lumi Keyboard x 2 + Universal Audio Apollo Twin X
Mac Mini M1 16GB/4TB + macOS 14.4 Sonoma
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1031 posts since 17 Jan, 2005 from London
Thank for the reply. That's what I was afraid of!
Bitwig 5.1.6 + Akai MIDIMix + Launchpad X + MuLab 9.3.18
Roli Lumi Keyboard x 2 + Universal Audio Apollo Twin X
Mac Mini M1 16GB/4TB + macOS 14.4 Sonoma
Roli Lumi Keyboard x 2 + Universal Audio Apollo Twin X
Mac Mini M1 16GB/4TB + macOS 14.4 Sonoma
- KVRAF
- 4145 posts since 13 May, 2004
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1031 posts since 17 Jan, 2005 from London
Not quite the same, but good to know, thanks. I guess that part of the problem is that Bitwig have used a non-standard, (presumably) Java based UI element for the tree component, rather than a standard macOS/Cocoa/Carbon one (other, lesser OS's are available ). I've posted a tweet about this. We'll see if @bitwig respond...
Bitwig 5.1.6 + Akai MIDIMix + Launchpad X + MuLab 9.3.18
Roli Lumi Keyboard x 2 + Universal Audio Apollo Twin X
Mac Mini M1 16GB/4TB + macOS 14.4 Sonoma
Roli Lumi Keyboard x 2 + Universal Audio Apollo Twin X
Mac Mini M1 16GB/4TB + macOS 14.4 Sonoma
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- KVRist
- 332 posts since 1 Jun, 2005 from Zwolle, Netherlands
I miss this too. But they are an idiosyncratic bunch but I am learning to appreciate the way they re-think conventions. I used to dislike the browser, but the more I work with it the more I start to appreciate the odd way they have chosen to navigate it. Still I agree there is great value in standard navigation throughout your OS.
I also once had questions about the browser (how to open folders, normally that is done with right arrow key). And I asked them about remapping the arrow keys. They are mapped multiple times throughout Bitwig for numerous functions like the browser. But you cannot change them (well you can delete them but then you lose that mapping because you cannot make a new one without deleting another... just try (backup your key command file!)). Mapping key commands to multiple (non conflicting) functions is not possible to do as a user. They are thinking about this they said, so this might enable you to map it the way you want (assuming they add "up to parent folder"). But I bet this is low on their prio list.
My workaround for you issue is I have my repeat delay set to minimum and repeat time to max so my cursor moves up very quickly. Not ideal and overall I would still prefer the macOS convention.
I also once had questions about the browser (how to open folders, normally that is done with right arrow key). And I asked them about remapping the arrow keys. They are mapped multiple times throughout Bitwig for numerous functions like the browser. But you cannot change them (well you can delete them but then you lose that mapping because you cannot make a new one without deleting another... just try (backup your key command file!)). Mapping key commands to multiple (non conflicting) functions is not possible to do as a user. They are thinking about this they said, so this might enable you to map it the way you want (assuming they add "up to parent folder"). But I bet this is low on their prio list.
My workaround for you issue is I have my repeat delay set to minimum and repeat time to max so my cursor moves up very quickly. Not ideal and overall I would still prefer the macOS convention.