THREE features you'd pay upgrade price for?

Official support for: bitwig.com

Select THREE features you'd pay upgrade price for!

On-line collaboration
7
1%
Step recording
18
3%
Mixed track heights
12
2%
Resizeable mixer faders
10
2%
Proper feedback routing (tracks, sends, Grid)
10
2%
Alias / Linked Clips
18
3%
Automation clips
34
6%
Scene follow-actions
5
1%
Audio & MIDI Comping
56
10%
Retrospective recording
39
7%
Native pitch correction (ala Melodyne)
12
2%
Video track / playback
18
3%
Grid containers
27
5%
MIDI Grid
63
12%
UI builder (knobs, faders, buttons, X/Y as remote pages)
20
4%
FL-like piano-roll features
71
13%
Scoring / notation support
4
1%
Data zoom / logarythmic waveform view
7
1%
Apple Silicon native support
16
3%
Audio to MIDI
17
3%
ARA support
29
5%
MSEG
44
8%
 
Total votes: 537

KVRian
1298 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Inverness, Scotland

Post Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:58 pm

A non-Java non-patterny API. I'd pay £500 for that right now.
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KVRist
443 posts since 3 Jul, 2016

Post Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:27 pm

I would be lovely to be able to lock the piano roll to a scale / scales . Main scale .green midi notes. secondary yellow for example..
...in short . Some sort of scale/chord Ai assistant..... :clap: thx.. :love:

KVRAF
1762 posts since 20 Oct, 2014

Post Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:05 am

Grid containers would really clean up organisation. Grid in grid or so. :o

KVRAF
6871 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:26 am

'FL-like piano-roll features' - I just bought FL Studio, I get it now! ;-)
( also add 'Edison like audio editing'!)
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KVRer
17 posts since 23 Nov, 2020

Post Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:39 am

For me it is (probably never gonna happen) 😅 :
More flexible routing (for 3D audio/Ambisonics etc. )
Lv2-support
Video-playback

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KVRAF

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8192 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:10 am

SLiC wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:26 am
'FL-like piano-roll features' - I just bought FL Studio, I get it now! ;-)
( also add 'Edison like audio editing'!)
Damn you, man! You'll mention it one more time & I'm getting the demo again ;) :D
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KVRAF
1671 posts since 28 Sep, 2012

Post Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:12 am

I would right away pay an upgrade fee for the feedback routing alone.

KVRAF
6871 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:46 am

antic604 wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:10 am
SLiC wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:26 am
'FL-like piano-roll features' - I just bought FL Studio, I get it now! ;-)
( also add 'Edison like audio editing'!)
Damn you, man! You'll mention it one more time & I'm getting the demo again ;)
Yeh, I must have demoed half a dozen times before I ‘got it’ and took the plunge. :wink: it is one of the best demos in the business, you can even save (just not reopen), so you can give it a good go whilst waiting for Bitwig 4 to drop.

I think it’s the not being able to sell it thing that always put me off just buying it to tinker around, but that is somewhat offset by the frequent updates and all updates being free. Did you know it works as a plug in?
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KVRAF
3123 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle

Post Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:56 am

I chose online collaboration, Audio and MIDI comping, and Video Track/playback.
I believe MIDI grid, Apple Silicon Support and resizable faders are a given.

What isn't on here I would like to see is Bitwig as a VSTi.

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KVRAF

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8192 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Sat Apr 24, 2021 12:08 pm

SLiC wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:46 am
Yeh, I must have demoed half a dozen times before I ‘got it’ and took the plunge. :wink: it is one of the best demos in the business, you can even save (just not reopen), so you can give it a good go whilst waiting for Bitwig 4 to drop.
Demoed it again today. Still not for me - I don't like the GUI and menu-diving. And trying to keep things organised and orderly would drive me crazy. Maybe v21 will improve things, but I doubt it. There's way too much legacy stuff they have to drag behind for compatibility ...and current users.
SLiC wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:46 am
Did you know it works as a plug in?
Yes, but that doesn't have any value to me.
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KVRAF
6871 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:48 pm

antic604 wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 12:08 pm
SLiC wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:46 am
Did you know it works as a plug in?
Yes, but that doesn't have any value to me.
Yeh, it can seem that way...so many “things’ and ways to work! I guess that’s what happens when you keep adding stuff people ask for for 21 years and somewhat apt for this thread!

I bought the all plug in version and figured even if I just used FL as a drum machine and instrument and fx rack in my other DAWs it was good value...a bit like reason rack! Anyway, here is a video of someone doing just that in Bitwig to stay on topic a bit!

https://youtu.be/Tdlx7HAV9Bo
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KVRist
31 posts since 31 Dec, 2004

Post Sat Apr 24, 2021 6:15 pm

+1 Groove Pool.

The issue with adding in video is that it's fundamentally not what Bitwig was ever directed towards. Once you build in video, it starts pulling the app toward needing configurable multichannel implemented at the track level, which in turn affects the plugin API and monitoring, etc., ad nauseam. You also need cue points in addition to markers, and some ability to reset the beat clock as well as meter on those cues, otherwise your grid will quickly become useless. Over the years it leads you to a huge effort, while the app still needs basic features to cover its core audience optimally. Then you have Jack of all trades, master of none. It would become a huge piece of software like Cubase. If someone wants to do video, they should try Cubase - its feature set is great for that purpose - or another DAW.

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KVRAF
3123 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle

Post Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:15 pm

amg56 wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 6:15 pm
+1 Groove Pool.

The issue with adding in video is that it's fundamentally not what Bitwig was ever directed towards. Once you build in video, it starts pulling the app toward needing configurable multichannel implemented at the track level, which in turn affects the plugin API and monitoring, etc., ad nauseam. You also need cue points in addition to markers, and some ability to reset the beat clock as well as meter on those cues, otherwise your grid will quickly become useless. Over the years it leads you to a huge effort, while the app still needs basic features to cover its core audience optimally. Then you have Jack of all trades, master of none. It would become a huge piece of software like Cubase. If someone wants to do video, they should try Cubase - its feature set is great for that purpose - or another DAW.
It doesn't have to be "great", just something on the lines of what Live offers.
Most of us that want that kind of feature already have a DAW like DP, Cubase or Logic that has good or great movie features. Bitwig, like Live, offers some things the others don't in terms of film scoring, more in the vein of foley and special FX work. If I want micro editing level control over film scoring I'm going to be using DP, but that isn't always what's needed.

Plus, one of Lives IMO big advantages is the integration of Jitter. You could literally run an entire show from Live on a laptop, including video DJing on the fly. That said IMO the fundamentals of Bitwig are better, better commands and UX in general, Live always feel like carpal tunnel in the making compared. So I pretty much want my cake and to eat it too.

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KVRer
2 posts since 28 Aug, 2018

Post Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:17 am

I'd really like to see big update to Windows touch. I'd settle for them ironing out some of the automation-drawing quirks.

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KVRAF
5492 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:23 pm

I would like to see Pd integration in the Grid. A way to create Grid objects with Pd and a UI for Grid patches. It would be the equivalent of M4L, but better. The licensing of Pd would allow that! It could be made a bit like MobMuPlat which allows to create music apps for mobile devices with Pd. Instead of the ugly UI elements of MobMuPlat we would get the nice Bitwig elements...

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